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 Rewatch Downunder Saturday 21st September C12 Death Watch
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| M1795537OCVirn |
Posted on 21-09-2024 10:14
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Cally was enjoying her quiet time I think  Following the sopron adventure, she's decided to check out her rock & crystal collection. What is that she's drinking? Looks like blood! Well I mean look at this spread...  People are always going on about the treasure room on the Liberator but the real treasure was the alien drinks room That’s one party I’d love to join! A pity Obsidian isn't back yet - she's probably collected most of that glassware by now. I wonder if there's anything she's still looking for? "You're not sulking, I hope?"
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| AnneArthur |
Posted on 21-09-2024 10:14
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What an idiot of a Tarrant. He could have kiiled him right there. |
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| M1795537OCVirn |
Posted on 21-09-2024 10:15
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Also, note the bowls of otters' noses, ocelot spleens etc.
"You're not sulking, I hope?"
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| Joe Dredd |
Posted on 21-09-2024 10:16
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Also, note the bowls of otters' noses, ocelot spleens etc. Crunchy frog? |
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| AnneArthur |
Posted on 21-09-2024 10:16
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Cally was enjoying her quiet time I think Following the sopron adventure, she's decided to check out her rock & crystal collection. What is that she's drinking? Looks like blood! Well I mean look at this spread... People are always going on about the treasure room on the Liberator but the real treasure was the alien drinks room That’s one party I’d love to join! A pity Obsidian isn't back yet - she's probably collected most of that glassware by now. I wonder if there's anything she's still looking for? Where is Obsidian, anyway? |
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| M1795537OCVirn |
Posted on 21-09-2024 10:16
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You know they make a point of putting up on the screen that Teal is black and Vendor is red - even if you overlook the fact that teal is a colour in it’s own right LOL - why are the discs blue and green? Surely they should match their outfits. Sound like a CSO (chromakey?) issue... What - both of them silver? "You're not sulking, I hope?"
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| dodgyville |
Posted on 21-09-2024 10:16
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37m: Tarrant's brother and his opponent face off in the virtual world in a quick draw. He loses. Everyone watching experiences. Vila is so horrified he pulls off his VR patch. Great little Vila moment. A great moment over all. Very serious, very impactful. You feel the planets watching. The uniforms are one of the less successful elements of the episode (in case you are tired of me praising it)  |
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| Joe Dredd |
Posted on 21-09-2024 10:17
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I like how Tarrant comes out of the spell when the disc is ripped from him. Some of the other reactions (like Vila's) look too slow, more actorly than emotionally in the moment. |
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| Tyce |
Posted on 21-09-2024 10:19
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Cally was enjoying her quiet time I think Following the sopron adventure, she's decided to check out her rock & crystal collection. What is that she's drinking? Looks like blood! Well I mean look at this spread... People are always going on about the treasure room on the Liberator but the real treasure was the alien drinks room That’s one party I’d love to join! A pity Obsidian isn't back yet - she's probably collected most of that glassware by now. I wonder if there's anything she's still looking for? Yes her collection of B7 glassware is impressive. |
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| AnneArthur |
Posted on 21-09-2024 10:20
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37m: Tarrant's brother and his opponent face off in the virtual world in a quick draw. He loses. Everyone watching experiences. Vila is so horrified he pulls off his VR patch. Great little Vila moment. A great moment over all. Very serious, very impactful. You feel the planets watching. The uniforms are one of the less successful elements of the episode (in case you are tired of me praising it) They are rather like silver matador's outfits. But again there are these annoying exaggerated epaulettes. |
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| dodgyville |
Posted on 21-09-2024 10:20
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42m: Avon shepherds the gang through the detective work and they each contribute to realising the opponent was a robot. Suddenly the episode becomes a murder mystery and Boucher is in his element. It's great episode for Servalan. Plans within plans and befitting her stature (sometimes I wonder why the President of the Galaxy is walking around a field with four troopers) |
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| Tyce |
Posted on 21-09-2024 10:21
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You know they make a point of putting up on the screen that Teal is black and Vendor is red - even if you overlook the fact that teal is a colour in it’s own right LOL - why are the discs blue and green? Surely they should match their outfits. Sound like a CSO (chromakey?) issue... What - both of them silver? No, the trim, red and black. |
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| M1795537OCVirn |
Posted on 21-09-2024 10:21
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Maybe we could encourage her to display her B7 glassware when we finally get Tycecon II (HINT),
"You're not sulking, I hope?"
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| Joe Dredd |
Posted on 21-09-2024 10:23
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A pity Obsidian isn't back yet - she's probably collected most of that glassware by now. I wonder if there's anything she's still looking for? Yes her collection of B7 glassware is impressive. Obsidian's been trying to find a good way to present it. I was wondering if it would be possible to do a B7 recipe book. There's not a lot of food mentioned in the show (mangan stew, anyone?) so it would have to be recipes based on situations or punny titles (Breakfast of Kairos, etc). |
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| AnneArthur |
Posted on 21-09-2024 10:25
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The tongue-in-cheek re-use of the set is also fun. |
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| Joe Dredd |
Posted on 21-09-2024 10:25
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A return to the viewing gallery set. This time however, no stars. If it is all a computer simulation there's no reason why it couldn't have a moving space background. I hope the Blu-ray addresses this when they get to it. |
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| M1795537OCVirn |
Posted on 21-09-2024 10:25
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42m: Avon shepherds the gang through the detective work and they each contribute to realising the opponent was a robot. Suddenly the episode becomes a murder mystery and Boucher is in his element. It's great episode for Servalan. Plans within plans and befitting her stature (sometimes I wonder why the President of the Galaxy is walking around a field with four troopers) Personal protection, show of strength, likes having men who do what they're told... and every episode she's in is a great episode, despite the efforts of the BBC, script, other actors etc etc. (Maybe I've gone and given myself away again...) "You're not sulking, I hope?"
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| dodgyville |
Posted on 21-09-2024 10:26
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47m: Tarrant challenges the robot to a duel and it takes place inside a virtual space liner. The space liner is one of the more successful sets ever to appear on the show and they get good use out of it (opening sequence and this). Although watch out for Vervoids I suspect in the hold.  Also want to highlight the planetary vehicle. So simply done but soooo effective. From the worst production values of all time (the camera zoom on the Moloch city drawing last week) to some of the most effective. Death-watch for the win!  |
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| Joe Dredd |
Posted on 21-09-2024 10:27
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"As ever, Dayna, gaudy but effective." This is the second time Boucher uses the "gaudy but effective" line. He does a similar thing with other lines - "scruffy bag of bolts" appears twice in S4, we get "X or Y, the choice is yours" twice, etc. |
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| AnneArthur |
Posted on 21-09-2024 10:28
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And ends with Tarrant and Avon unexpectedly in harmony - a purely temporary condition, however. |
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| Tyce |
Posted on 21-09-2024 10:28
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Maybe we could encourage her to display her B7 glassware when we finally get Tycecon II (HINT), Ha ha ha ha, yeah I probably need a couple of hints and a bit of a push. My problem is I keep doing things like flying overseas or interstate every five minutes. I really ought to try staying at home for awhile. LOL |
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| M1795537OCVirn |
Posted on 21-09-2024 10:29
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Maybe we could encourage her to display her B7 glassware when we finally get Tycecon II (HINT), Ha ha ha ha, yeah I probably need a couple of hints and a bit of a push. My problem is I keep doing things like flying overseas or interstate every five minutes. I really ought to try staying at home for awhile. LOL 
"You're not sulking, I hope?"
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| dodgyville |
Posted on 21-09-2024 10:30
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49m: Tarrant vapourises the robot, destroying evidence the fight was ever rigged so the two planets don't go to a full scale war. Servelan is foiled. Everyone goes home (except Tarrant's brother) So that was Death-watch. I love it so much |
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| AnneArthur |
Posted on 21-09-2024 10:31
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49m: Tarrant vapourises the robot, destroying evidence the fight was ever rigged so the two planets don't go to a full scale war. Servelan is foiled. Everyone goes home (except Tarrant's brother) So that was Death-watch. I love it so much Theoretically, if Tarrant gave Vinni time to turn round, he would also have given him time to shoot and kill him - but that's a niggle. There is so much that is good in this episode. |
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| M1795537OCVirn |
Posted on 21-09-2024 10:32
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49m: Tarrant vapourises the robot, destroying evidence the fight was ever rigged so the two planets don't go to a full scale war. Servelan is foiled. Everyone goes home (except Tarrant's brother) So that was Death-watch. I love it so much I'd say her plan is delayed, rather than foiled...besides, she's already busy setting up her next trap. "You're not sulking, I hope?"
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| Joe Dredd |
Posted on 21-09-2024 10:32
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I totally agree with you about the space liner set and the subsurface shuttle. I love how the shuttle is basically something they can lean back against plus the regular passing light to suggest movement. There's another episode where they do something similar to suggest a lift, except the light goes from top to bottom instead of horizontally. Looking at the space liner pic, it looks like those two 'offices' at top left and right may be an illustration (glass shot?) rather than part of the set. |
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| dodgyville |
Posted on 21-09-2024 10:36
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I totally agree with you about the space liner set and the subsurface shuttle. I love how the shuttle is basically something they can lean back against plus the regular passing light to suggest movement. There's another episode where they do something similar to suggest a lift, except the light goes from top to bottom instead of horizontally. Looking at the space liner pic, it looks like those two 'offices' at top left and right may be an illustration (glass shot?) rather than part of the set. You're right... they did a good job |
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| dodgyville |
Posted on 21-09-2024 10:36
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49m: Tarrant vapourises the robot, destroying evidence the fight was ever rigged so the two planets don't go to a full scale war. Servelan is foiled. Everyone goes home (except Tarrant's brother) So that was Death-watch. I love it so much I'd say her plan is delayed, rather than foiled...besides, she's already busy setting up her next trap. This was actually part of her plan. |
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| Joe Dredd |
Posted on 21-09-2024 10:38
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# To rule us all is her number one plan That's what you get when you get Servalan! # |
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| Tyce |
Posted on 21-09-2024 10:38
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Okay, good night and good morning people, see you next week. |
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| M1795537OCVirn |
Posted on 21-09-2024 10:38
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I totally agree with you about the space liner set and the subsurface shuttle. I love how the shuttle is basically something they can lean back against plus the regular passing light to suggest movement. There's another episode where they do something similar to suggest a lift, except the light goes from top to bottom instead of horizontally. Looking at the space liner pic, it looks like those two 'offices' at top left and right may be an illustration (glass shot?) rather than part of the set. The Federation Health and Safety Secretariat would condemn it - needs a handrail for those stairs. "You're not sulking, I hope?"
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| M1795537OCVirn |
Posted on 21-09-2024 10:39
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Happy Equinox, everyone. See you next time.
"You're not sulking, I hope?"
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| dodgyville |
Posted on 21-09-2024 10:40
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Damn it I want to go to the party on the Liberator they had while flying to Teal. It looks so fun. And just ordering Orac to be the entertainment and not giving a heck that he doesn't like it. It's just ... so much better than living on the Enterprise D with their classical music concerts and paintings of sunsets |
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| Joe Dredd |
Posted on 21-09-2024 10:43
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Damn it I want to go to the party on the Liberator they had while flying to Teal. It looks so fun. And just ordering Orac to be the entertainment and not giving a heck that he doesn't like it. It's just ... so much better than living on the Enterprise D with their classical music concerts and paintings of sunsets They don't have Vila as the Entertainments Officer. |
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| Joe Dredd |
Posted on 21-09-2024 10:43
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Well good night everyone. Thanks for your company. |
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| dodgyville |
Posted on 21-09-2024 10:44
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Good night all. Next week is trauma central! WHY WHY |
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| AnneArthur |
Posted on 21-09-2024 10:46
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Goodnight everyone - thanks for the rewatch. Can't believe we're at the end of series 3 already! |
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| dodgyville |
Posted on 21-09-2024 11:06
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There is a moment that I don't think quite lands: VILA: I'm going to be thrilled one way or another. [He glances at Dayna] Have a drink, Dayna. DAYNA: Do you know your most attractive quality, Vila? VILA [Eagerly]: No. What? DAYNA: Your subtlety. [His face falls.] It's a character moment for both of them. It shows a really sleazy side of Vila. From a drama angle I really like it. I like in B7 how the main characters are not necessarily good people. It shows a whip smart side of Dayna. So I want to give it the benefit of the doubt and say it's good character work and not bad 70s-80s vibes... but it could be. I think though regardless of the script it's played is a little too light. Like, Dayna's not as grossed out as I think she would be. Vila really is unpleasant sometimes! |
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| dodgyville |
Posted on 21-09-2024 11:13
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(I'm watching the 15 minutes I had to skip earlier). There's an awesome little moment after the Servalan/Avon scene where he asks Cally to beam him up and it's like he steps backwards into the teleport beam. It's very debonair. Possibly peak-coolness for Avon. Pity I can't upload a little gif of it |
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| dodgyville |
Posted on 21-09-2024 11:13
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Alright now I am done! Good night |
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