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 Rewatch Downunder Saturday 4th May B5 Pressure Point
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| AnneArthur |
Posted on 04-05-2024 10:02
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22mins: For all the positives so far this episode is showcasing the biggest weakest of B7 to me... the criminal underuse and underwriting of Jenna and Cally. Cally in particular they never realised what GOLD they had with the character and actor. They're just sitting at the teleport. There are one or two episodes - like Horizon, last week - where they do really interesting things with her telepathy, and then they forget about it completely, even where it would have been useful. |
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| Obsidian |
Posted on 04-05-2024 10:03
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22mins: For all the positives so far this episode is showcasing the biggest weakest of B7 to me... the criminal underuse and underwriting of Jenna and Cally. Cally in particular they never realised what GOLD they had with the character and actor. They're just sitting at the teleport. Yes, a criminal waste. But Jenna does get a starring role later on in the ep., thank goodness. Don't philosophise at me you electronic moron.
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| M1795537OCVirn |
Posted on 04-05-2024 10:04
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22mins: For all the positives so far this episode is showcasing the biggest weakest of B7 to me... the criminal underuse and underwriting of Jenna and Cally. Cally in particular they never realised what GOLD they had with the character and actor. They're just sitting at the teleport. There are one or two episodes - like Horizon, last week - where they do really interesting things with her telepathy, and then they forget about it completely, even where it would have been useful. I wonder if it would have been different if the telepath was a bloke? "You're not sulking, I hope?"
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| dodgyville |
Posted on 04-05-2024 10:04
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26mins: The teleport effect! The wobble, the sound effect, the white line outline... all using video tape mixers. It's just so 1978. Never before and never after did the tech come together for something so... um... unique |
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| Obsidian |
Posted on 04-05-2024 10:05
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22mins: For all the positives so far this episode is showcasing the biggest weakest of B7 to me... the criminal underuse and underwriting of Jenna and Cally. Cally in particular they never realised what GOLD they had with the character and actor. They're just sitting at the teleport. There are one or two episodes - like Horizon, last week - where they do really interesting things with her telepathy, and then they forget about it completely, even where it would have been useful. I wonder if it would have been different if the telepath was a bloke? Probably; however, blokes get still get to do most of the Ripping Yarns stuff. Don't philosophise at me you electronic moron.
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| AnneArthur |
Posted on 04-05-2024 10:06
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22mins: For all the positives so far this episode is showcasing the biggest weakest of B7 to me... the criminal underuse and underwriting of Jenna and Cally. Cally in particular they never realised what GOLD they had with the character and actor. They're just sitting at the teleport. There are one or two episodes - like Horizon, last week - where they do really interesting things with her telepathy, and then they forget about it completely, even where it would have been useful. I wonder if it would have been different if the telepath was a bloke? Possibly, but not necessarily - look at what they did with Gan. |
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| Obsidian |
Posted on 04-05-2024 10:07
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Brian Croucher was just so lanky. Love the shiny, shiny boots. And Avon's shiny, shiny boots too.
Don't philosophise at me you electronic moron.
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| M1795537OCVirn |
Posted on 04-05-2024 10:07
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So there is a door Vila can't open!
"You're not sulking, I hope?"
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| dodgyville |
Posted on 04-05-2024 10:08
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I just think with Cally is that she is a terrorist from a society of telepaths who are 100% pacifists due to their empathic abilities. It's just so crazy interesting to me and they do hardly anything with it! |
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| AnneArthur |
Posted on 04-05-2024 10:08
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I just think with Cally is that she is a terrorist from a society of telepaths who are 100% pacifists due to their empathic abilities. It's just so crazy interesting to me and they do hardly anything with it! I quite agree! |
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| dodgyville |
Posted on 04-05-2024 10:09
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31mins: Travis just throwing away four teleport bracelets... only maybe the most valuable tech in the entire galaxy |
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| Obsidian |
Posted on 04-05-2024 10:11
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I just think with Cally is that she is a terrorist from a society of telepaths who are 100% pacifists due to their empathic abilities. It's just so crazy interesting to me and they do hardly anything with it! Sadly, very little. It's one of the things on which most fans are agreed. Cally looks fab in her beautiful drapey dress, but was so much more impressive as the Lady in Red Jumpsuit and mega weapon. Don't philosophise at me you electronic moron.
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| dodgyville |
Posted on 04-05-2024 10:11
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34mins: Mutoids! Take a drink |
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| M1795537OCVirn |
Posted on 04-05-2024 10:12
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31mins: Travis just throwing away four teleport bracelets... only maybe the most valuable tech in the entire galaxy You can't get the staff! "You're not sulking, I hope?"
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| Obsidian |
Posted on 04-05-2024 10:12
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Bloody idiot Gan.
Don't philosophise at me you electronic moron.
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| Obsidian |
Posted on 04-05-2024 10:12
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Hmm, gloves... thinking.
Don't philosophise at me you electronic moron.
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| Obsidian |
Posted on 04-05-2024 10:15
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Wonder if there's a gym on the Liberator?
Don't philosophise at me you electronic moron.
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| M1795537OCVirn |
Posted on 04-05-2024 10:15
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Hmm, gloves... thinking. And? "You're not sulking, I hope?"
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| AnneArthur |
Posted on 04-05-2024 10:15
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Paul Darrow is really not very good at falling over convincingly. |
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| Obsidian |
Posted on 04-05-2024 10:16
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How to be outfitted when the time comes. Don't philosophise at me you electronic moron.
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| dodgyville |
Posted on 04-05-2024 10:16
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35mins: Avon talking about the security system wiring. What's interesting about Avon in this episode is that I feel Paul Darrow is a little ahead of the writing in his preferred characterisation of Avon. Avon is written as the cynical computer expert, reluctant rebel and jealous number 2 but Darrow is playing him like the anti-hero. It's definitely an interesting transition episode (although you can say that about almost every episode of B7 -- it's always evolving). |
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| dodgyville |
Posted on 04-05-2024 10:19
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41mins: Blake [super ANGRY]: Take all the time you want! [super AGGRESSIVE] YOU CAN DO IT And a nice little moment where Blake's obsession controls him. super dark really Edited by dodgyville on 04-05-2024 10:19 |
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| Obsidian |
Posted on 04-05-2024 10:19
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So right, Travis. Propaganda at its best.
Don't philosophise at me you electronic moron.
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| AnneArthur |
Posted on 04-05-2024 10:21
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That moment when he rushes in shouting 'We've done it! I've done it!' |
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| Obsidian |
Posted on 04-05-2024 10:21
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41mins: Blake [super ANGRY]: Take all the time you want! [super AGGRESSIVE] YOU CAN DO IT And a nice little moment where Blake's obsession controls him. super dark really Typical zealot. Don't philosophise at me you electronic moron.
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| M1795537OCVirn |
Posted on 04-05-2024 10:21
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It's interesting to watch how both Paul and Jacs make their characters bigger as the series progresses, while some of the others either didn't realise they could, or didn't have that kind of talent.
"You're not sulking, I hope?"
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| AnneArthur |
Posted on 04-05-2024 10:22
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I really do not like this lizard-feeling-your-tits dress. But it's interesting that Servalan seems to have found time to change (and also that she didn't know who Jenna was).
Edited by AnneArthur on 04-05-2024 10:23 |
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| M1795537OCVirn |
Posted on 04-05-2024 10:23
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Oops.
"You're not sulking, I hope?"
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| Obsidian |
Posted on 04-05-2024 10:23
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That moment when he rushes in shouting 'We've done it! I've done it!' Gives the whole game away, if he hasn't already. Blake becomes more and more obsessed. On a hiding to nothing really, which is where Avon has been correct all along. Don't philosophise at me you electronic moron.
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| Obsidian |
Posted on 04-05-2024 10:24
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Don't philosophise at me you electronic moron.
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| dodgyville |
Posted on 04-05-2024 10:24
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So right, Travis. Propaganda at its best. The Federation sets up this super elaborate scheme to trap rebels that involves hiding the MAIN computer holding the entire regime of thousands of planets together and at the heart of it puts a lanky guy with a bad eye patch |
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| AnneArthur |
Posted on 04-05-2024 10:24
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That moment when he rushes in shouting 'We've done it! I've done it!' Gives the whole game away, if he hasn't already. Blake becomes more and more obsessed. On a hiding to nothing really, which is where Avon has been correct all along. But Avon does no better when it's his turn. |
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| M1795537OCVirn |
Posted on 04-05-2024 10:26
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I really do not like this lizard-feeling-your-tits dress. But it's interesting that Servalan seems to have found time to change (and also that she didn't know who Jenna was). But Jenna made it hard by wearing a different dress. Maybe that lizard was enjoying itself. "You're not sulking, I hope?"
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| AnneArthur |
Posted on 04-05-2024 10:27
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I really do not like this lizard-feeling-your-tits dress. But it's interesting that Servalan seems to have found time to change (and also that she didn't know who Jenna was). But Jenna made it hard by wearing a different dress. Maybe that lizard was enjoying itself. Servalan, of all people, should be able to see beyond the dress! |
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| M1795537OCVirn |
Posted on 04-05-2024 10:29
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That moment when he rushes in shouting 'We've done it! I've done it!' Gives the whole game away, if he hasn't already. Blake becomes more and more obsessed. On a hiding to nothing really, which is where Avon has been correct all along. But Avon does no better when it's his turn. But Avon didn't set himself up as a leader as Blake did, he just ended up with the job. Plus it meant he got to keep the ship and Orac. "You're not sulking, I hope?"
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| Obsidian |
Posted on 04-05-2024 10:29
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It's interesting to watch how both Paul and Jacs make their characters bigger as the series progresses, while some of the others either didn't realise they could, or didn't have that kind of talent. They weren't experienced enough at that stage. Paul and Jacs had the ears of the writers, Mr. D. especially, but I still find it fascinating how the characters were written and how they were played. They play genuinely troubled and traumatised types which isn't entirely clear when you read the words on paper. Of course, having Chris Boucher more in the mix helped tremendously because he helped build the characters over the longer term giving them the feel of real human beings who've been through real experiences, rather than just ciphers. Don't philosophise at me you electronic moron.
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| M1795537OCVirn |
Posted on 04-05-2024 10:31
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I really do not like this lizard-feeling-your-tits dress. But it's interesting that Servalan seems to have found time to change (and also that she didn't know who Jenna was). But Jenna made it hard by wearing a different dress. Maybe that lizard was enjoying itself. Servalan, of all people, should be able to see beyond the dress! Wouldn't Servalan focus on the dress and wonder who designed it etc..? Identifying the wearer would be secondary. "You're not sulking, I hope?"
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| dodgyville |
Posted on 04-05-2024 10:32
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It's interesting to watch how both Paul and Jacs make their characters bigger as the series progresses, while some of the others either didn't realise they could, or didn't have that kind of talent. You know that's really interesting, especially given that Gan just died in this episode. To me one of the foundations of B7 is that each of the seven is a "bad person" that finds themselves in the role of the freedom fighter. It's a really solid foundation but the show often fails to build on it even though it was never afraid to go to dark places. Gan is a great example. It's kind of suggested throughout the show that he was a violent killer of some kind. Maybe it's possible the show would've explored that more if Jackson had pushed it. Edited by dodgyville on 04-05-2024 10:33 |
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| Obsidian |
Posted on 04-05-2024 10:33
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That moment when he rushes in shouting 'We've done it! I've done it!' Gives the whole game away, if he hasn't already. Blake becomes more and more obsessed. On a hiding to nothing really, which is where Avon has been correct all along. But Avon does no better when it's his turn. That's the whole thing; it's apples and oranges. They have completely different aims and ambitions. They can't be compared. Avon ends up lumped with something he never wanted and has no idea how to utilise because all he wants is to disappear with riches and a nice research project, not to be leading a fairly pathetic rebellion. Don't philosophise at me you electronic moron.
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| M1795537OCVirn |
Posted on 04-05-2024 10:34
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So - your first Downunder rewatch, dodgyville. How was it for you?
"You're not sulking, I hope?"
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