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Rewatch Downunder Saturday 18th May B7 Killer
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| Obsidian |
Posted on 18-05-2024 10:29
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3rd century of the 2nd calendar and they only have a few computers and they can’t access the few they have. LOL This is something we've discussed before and, while it might seem daft to today's kiddies, there is no guarantee that technological developments continued unabated given the cataclysms likely to have occurred before the 2nd calendar was instituted. Very likely they did not and various 'wheels' had to be reinvented or adapted. Hence the bank of microfiche readers? It's probably the only way we can account for them. Although using a very funky mid-20th century (Italian I think) lamp as a water fountain/sink is pretty instructive too! ![]() Technology is only developed to solve problems. I can think of various things that lapsed in usefulness in the past only to be reimagined at different times for different purposes: Accounting and seals, communal storage, blah, blah. Don't philosophise at me you electronic moron.
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| Joe Dredd |
Posted on 18-05-2024 10:29
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Oops, there's the London sitting next to Liberator. |
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| Tyce |
Posted on 18-05-2024 10:30
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Great episode, well I like it anyway. Thanks for your company guys. Maybe see you next week. |
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| dodgyville |
Posted on 18-05-2024 10:30
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Redskins are yummy, only we can't have them no more. Last week I found out Nestles stopped making them. After all that bother changing the name to Rippers. Ripperz, surely? I assumed it was meant to be as in Aussie slang, e.g. "You little ripper!" but at the same time that kind of Aussie phraseology all seems to be disappearing. I thought it was because they were so tough they ripped out your teeth Edited by dodgyville on 18-05-2024 10:32 |
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| Obsidian |
Posted on 18-05-2024 10:30
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I think ultimately this episode is a mess. It's got five or six really great ideas in it... the ancient ship, the honest scientists working for the Federation, Avon blackmailing an old friend, a heist of a translator crystal from the facility, the autopsy, the motives of the aliens, the plague itself and how the facility falls to pieces even as they calmly search for a diagnosis and cure... it just needed another draft or two to really bring out the magic. Too bad. Several decades too late. Don't philosophise at me you electronic moron.
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| AnneArthur |
Posted on 18-05-2024 10:31
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This is what I don't like about this episode. Tynus announces a plague and Vila, who normally has a very well-developed sense of self-preservation, doesn't even query remaining in a potentially infected area. They all just assume that they will be all right. I can see them relying on the Liberator's medical bay, but it would be nice if that were made explicit. Vila's starting to panic. He is now, yes. But it would be good if Avon were to say 'A few more minutes, then we'll be back on the Liberator, and the medical scanners can remove anything we've picked up from our systems.' They do seem to lack a sense of personal jeopardy. They do make it explicit in Children of Auron. Their immunity here is rather grating - especially Blake's. He's at the centre of the action from the beginning, and yet he doesn't seem to be harmed at all, or to think that he might be. |
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| Joe Dredd |
Posted on 18-05-2024 10:31
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I thought it was because they were so touch they ripped out your teeth Lol! I don't know that they'd want to advertise that! |
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| Obsidian |
Posted on 18-05-2024 10:31
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Great episode, well I like it anyway. Thanks for your company guys. Maybe see you next week. Agreed. Glad you made it Tyce. That's devotion.❤️❤️❤️ Don't philosophise at me you electronic moron.
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| M1795537OCVirn |
Posted on 18-05-2024 10:31
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Redskins are yummy, only we can't have them no more. Last week I found out Nestles stopped making them. After all that bother changing the name to Rippers. Ripperz, surely? I assumed it was meant to be as in Aussie slang, e.g. "You little ripper!" but at the same time that kind of Aussie phraseology all seems to be disappearing. (Apparently there was a Russian mass murderer with the colouful - and probably accurate - title of the Red Ripper, so they changed to the z). But even that didn't last long. Another good lolly bites the dust (weird menatal image there...). "You're not sulking, I hope?"
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| AnneArthur |
Posted on 18-05-2024 10:32
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I think ultimately this episode is a mess. It's got five or six really great ideas in it... the ancient ship, the honest scientists working for the Federation, Avon blackmailing an old friend, a heist of a translator crystal from the facility, the autopsy, the motives of the aliens, the plague itself and how the facility falls to pieces even as they calmly search for a diagnosis and cure... it just needed another draft or two to really bring out the magic. It's the frustrating thing about it. It's got a lot going for it - it just needs to be thought through a bit more. |
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| dodgyville |
Posted on 18-05-2024 10:33
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Thanks everyone for the laughs and insights! |
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| Joe Dredd |
Posted on 18-05-2024 10:33
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Their immunity here is rather grating - especially Blake's. He's at the centre of the action from the beginning, and yet he doesn't seem to be harmed at all, or to think that he might be. It's also odd when he turns to Zen and says "I want a plague warning transmitter put in orbit." What makes him think Liberator has any? If you're checking out your new spaceship, you certainly look for food and water, make sure it has air, maybe weapons for protection... but warning transmitters? I was half waiting for Zen to say "What are they?" or "We don't have any." |
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| AnneArthur |
Posted on 18-05-2024 10:34
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Redskins are yummy, only we can't have them no more. Last week I found out Nestles stopped making them. After all that bother changing the name to Rippers. Ripperz, surely? I assumed it was meant to be as in Aussie slang, e.g. "You little ripper!" but at the same time that kind of Aussie phraseology all seems to be disappearing. (Apparently there was a Russian mass murderer with the colouful - and probably accurate - title of the Red Ripper, so they changed to the z). But even that didn't last long. Another good lolly bites the dust (weird menatal image there...). Well, the first thing I think of when I see the word 'Ripper' is 'Jack the . . .' But that might be a British thing. |
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| Obsidian |
Posted on 18-05-2024 10:34
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Oops, there's the London sitting next to Liberator. The London-type vessels were the working dog of the Fed fleet. One turns up later in Moloch. Don't philosophise at me you electronic moron.
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| M1795537OCVirn |
Posted on 18-05-2024 10:34
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Mediocre episode - so much more they could have made of it - but a great rewatch. Hope you all have a good week, and see you next time!
"You're not sulking, I hope?"
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| Obsidian |
Posted on 18-05-2024 10:35
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Redskins are yummy, only we can't have them no more. Last week I found out Nestles stopped making them. After all that bother changing the name to Rippers. Ripperz, surely? I assumed it was meant to be as in Aussie slang, e.g. "You little ripper!" but at the same time that kind of Aussie phraseology all seems to be disappearing. (Apparently there was a Russian mass murderer with the colouful - and probably accurate - title of the Red Ripper, so they changed to the z). But even that didn't last long. Another good lolly bites the dust (weird menatal image there...). Well, the first thing I think of when I see the word 'Ripper' is 'Jack the . . .' But that might be a British thing. Aussie: Ripper Rita! Means you beaut! Wonderful. Great. Amaaaaazing! Grouse. Who uses grouse anymore? I do when having a lend of folks back in the 70s. Edited by Obsidian on 18-05-2024 10:37 Don't philosophise at me you electronic moron.
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| dodgyville |
Posted on 18-05-2024 10:35
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Their immunity here is rather grating - especially Blake's. He's at the centre of the action from the beginning, and yet he doesn't seem to be harmed at all, or to think that he might be. It's also odd when he turns to Zen and says "I want a plague warning transmitter put in orbit." What makes him think Liberator has any? If you're checking out your new spaceship, you certainly look for food and water, make sure it has air, maybe weapons for protection... but warning transmitters? I was half waiting for Zen to say "What are they?" or "We don't have any." They repurpose the London which it turns out they had in one of the docking bays. That explains why Blake was able to request a plague warning transmitter and also why it appears randomly next to the Liberator in the final shot. |
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| AnneArthur |
Posted on 18-05-2024 10:35
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Their immunity here is rather grating - especially Blake's. He's at the centre of the action from the beginning, and yet he doesn't seem to be harmed at all, or to think that he might be. It's also odd when he turns to Zen and says "I want a plague warning transmitter put in orbit." What makes him think Liberator has any? If you're checking out your new spaceship, you certainly look for food and water, make sure it has air, maybe weapons for protection... but warning transmitters? I was half waiting for Zen to say "What are they?" or "We don't have any." Yes - would the System work like that? Would any warnings they did have be readable by Federation ships? |
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| AnneArthur |
Posted on 18-05-2024 10:37
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Redskins are yummy, only we can't have them no more. Last week I found out Nestles stopped making them. After all that bother changing the name to Rippers. Ripperz, surely? I assumed it was meant to be as in Aussie slang, e.g. "You little ripper!" but at the same time that kind of Aussie phraseology all seems to be disappearing. (Apparently there was a Russian mass murderer with the colouful - and probably accurate - title of the Red Ripper, so they changed to the z). But even that didn't last long. Another good lolly bites the dust (weird menatal image there...). Well, the first thing I think of when I see the word 'Ripper' is 'Jack the . . .' But that might be a British thing. Aussie: Ripper Rita! I had to google that! |
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| Joe Dredd |
Posted on 18-05-2024 10:37
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Aussie: Ripper Rita! Exactly! |
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| dodgyville |
Posted on 18-05-2024 10:38
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BLAKE: Put a plague warning transmitter in orbit! ZEN: An excellent suggestion, Blake, with only two minor drawbacks. BLAKE: Oh? ZEN: One... we don't have any "plague warning transmitters" BLAKE: And? ZEN: Two... there's no so such thing as a "plague warning transmitter" JENNA: But other than that it was an excellent suggestion Edited by dodgyville on 18-05-2024 10:38 |
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| AnneArthur |
Posted on 18-05-2024 10:38
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Great re-watch, anyway. Good to see you all. See you next week I hope. |
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| AnneArthur |
Posted on 18-05-2024 10:38
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BLAKE: Put a plague warning transmitter in orbit! ZEN: An excellent suggestion, Blake, with only two minor drawbacks. BLAKE: Oh? ZEN: One... we don't have any "plague warning transmitters" BLAKE: And? ZEN: Two... there's no so such thing as a "plague warning transmitter" JENNA: But other than that it was an excellent suggestion ![]() ![]() ![]() |
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| Joe Dredd |
Posted on 18-05-2024 10:39
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Well, the first thing I think of when I see the word 'Ripper' is 'Jack the . . .' But that might be a British thing. I think our 'ripper' is British, at it's heart - 'ripping yarns' though, rather than Saucy Jack. |
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| Obsidian |
Posted on 18-05-2024 10:39
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Mediocre episode - so much more they could have made of it - but a great rewatch. Hope you all have a good week, and see you next time! Hmmm. I like it for various reasons. It doesn't have to make sense. Don't get mown down stepping out your door MsVirn. Have a good week otherwise. Don't philosophise at me you electronic moron.
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| Joe Dredd |
Posted on 18-05-2024 10:41
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BLAKE: Put a plague warning transmitter in orbit! ZEN: An excellent suggestion, Blake, with only two minor drawbacks. BLAKE: Oh? ZEN: One... we don't have any "plague warning transmitters" BLAKE: And? ZEN: Two... there's no so such thing as a "plague warning transmitter" JENNA: But other than that it was an excellent suggestion Exactly! There's this sort of assumption that we have whatever we need in Zen's cupboards. Jenna: We've arrived, Blake, and it turns out the planet is covered in water. Blake: Okay Zen, deploy two dinghies with outboard motors, some oars, wetsuits for all and enough scuba gear for six. Zen: [Thinks] Blimey! |
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| Obsidian |
Posted on 18-05-2024 10:41
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Well, the first thing I think of when I see the word 'Ripper' is 'Jack the . . .' But that might be a British thing. I think our 'ripper' is British, at it's heart - 'ripping yarns' though, rather than Saucy Jack. Absolutely. Don't philosophise at me you electronic moron.
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| Obsidian |
Posted on 18-05-2024 10:43
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BLAKE: Put a plague warning transmitter in orbit! ZEN: An excellent suggestion, Blake, with only two minor drawbacks. BLAKE: Oh? ZEN: One... we don't have any "plague warning transmitters" BLAKE: And? ZEN: Two... there's no so such thing as a "plague warning transmitter" JENNA: But other than that it was an excellent suggestion Exactly! There's this sort of assumption that we have whatever we need in Zen's cupboards. Jenna: We've arrived, Blake, and it turns out the planet is covered in water. Blake: Okay Zen, deploy two dinghies with outboard motors, some oars, wetsuits for all and enough scuba gear for six. Zen: [Thinks] Blimey! It's a big ship and who knows how many miracle rooms there are on it? It would be fun to have Zen say 'No, we don't have any.' A bit more Slave-like and obsequiously apologetic. Don't philosophise at me you electronic moron.
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| dodgyville |
Posted on 18-05-2024 10:44
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BLAKE: Put a plague warning transmitter in orbit! ZEN: An excellent suggestion, Blake, with only two minor drawbacks. BLAKE: Oh? ZEN: One... we don't have any "plague warning transmitters" BLAKE: And? ZEN: Two... there's no so such thing as a "plague warning transmitter" JENNA: But other than that it was an excellent suggestion Exactly! There's this sort of assumption that we have whatever we need in Zen's cupboards. Jenna: We've arrived, Blake, and it turns out the planet is covered in water. Blake: Okay Zen, deploy two dinghies with outboard motors, some oars, wetsuits for all and enough scuba gear for six. Zen: [Thinks] Blimey! Absolutely the Liberator has inflatable dinghies and wetsuits somewhere in storage though |
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| Joe Dredd |
Posted on 18-05-2024 10:45
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Who uses grouse anymore? Without having a go at multiculuralism, I think a lot of that is dying out because we have a whole lot of people who haven't grown up with it. Redheads don't get called Bluey anymore, they get called "Rangas" (basically - you're an orangutan!). You don't here Waltzing Matilda as much, when it used to be like a defacto anthem. Etc, etc. Though there is a rather clever (but a bit rude) set of sketches by some Indian Australians - "How to Talk Australians". |
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| Obsidian |
Posted on 18-05-2024 10:47
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Well, better do more of whatever it was I was doing before. Have a good week folks. See you next time!
Don't philosophise at me you electronic moron.
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| dodgyville |
Posted on 18-05-2024 10:47
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Also, Blake was kind of a passenger in this episode a bit. I wonder if they knew he wasn't coming back next season |
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| Obsidian |
Posted on 18-05-2024 10:50
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Who uses grouse anymore? Without having a go at multiculuralism, I think a lot of that is dying out because we have a whole lot of people who haven't grown up with it. Redheads don't get called Bluey anymore, they get called "Rangas" (basically - you're an orangutan!). You don't here Waltzing Matilda as much, when it used to be like a defacto anthem. Etc, etc. Though there is a rather clever (but a bit rude) set of sketches by some Indian Australians - "How to Talk Australians". And we should all be speaking Murican now according to the young things. My 25 year-old niece is half French but speaks with a Murican accent when speaking English. WTF? |
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| Joe Dredd |
Posted on 18-05-2024 10:50
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Also, Blake was kind of a passenger in this episode a bit. I wonder if they knew he wasn't coming back next season It's got of a bit of a 'Doctor Who' feeling, with Blake knowing everything about the old ship, and telling the experts his theory on what the animated zombie was for, etc. |
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| Obsidian |
Posted on 18-05-2024 10:52
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Also, Blake was kind of a passenger in this episode a bit. I wonder if they knew he wasn't coming back next season He comes back with a vengeance from now on. Despotic doesn't begin to describe it. Just wait for when he gets a haircut. It starts from there. Reverse Samson. Don't philosophise at me you electronic moron.
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| dodgyville |
Posted on 18-05-2024 10:53
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Who uses grouse anymore? Well I am seeing a grouse tonight 😂 |
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| Obsidian |
Posted on 18-05-2024 10:54
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Also, Blake was kind of a passenger in this episode a bit. I wonder if they knew he wasn't coming back next season It's got of a bit of a 'Doctor Who' feeling, with Blake knowing everything about the old ship, and telling the experts his theory on what the animated zombie was for, etc. Blake was a swot. That's obvious from his "Ever heard of Lord Amherst?" Don't philosophise at me you electronic moron.
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| dodgyville |
Posted on 18-05-2024 10:54
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Also, Blake was kind of a passenger in this episode a bit. I wonder if they knew he wasn't coming back next season It's got of a bit of a 'Doctor Who' feeling, with Blake knowing everything about the old ship, and telling the experts his theory on what the animated zombie was for, etc. Oh that is such a key observation. I declare that the comment of the thread! Robert Holmes wrote Blake as the Doctor... and it didn't quite work. |
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| Obsidian |
Posted on 18-05-2024 10:55
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Seeing, or drinking? Don't philosophise at me you electronic moron.
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| Joe Dredd |
Posted on 18-05-2024 10:55
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And we should all be speaking Murican now according to the young things. My 25 year-old niece is half French but speaks with a Murican accent when speaking English. WTF? I'm surprised how well our accent seems to be holding out, given how much of the content on TV (and Youtube/TikTok etc) is American. |
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