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 Rewatch Downunder - The Way Back, Saturday 31st December
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| M1795537OCVirn |
Posted on 31-12-2022 10:10
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A category 9 crime? One wonders what the other 8 were - including the cat 4 'going outside' one. Suggestions?? Maybe there were more than 9? Probably. Including 'looking at Servalan in a funny way' - instant execution (unless you have enough money/ information on Blake). "You're not sulking, I hope?"
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| Obsidian |
Posted on 31-12-2022 10:11
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I like the introduction of Vila - you don't know whether to trust him or not. And doesn't he look young, compared to the Vila we saw last week? Both Vila and Jenna seem equally untrustworthy – the way Jenna strokes Blake's hair etc. Yes, Vila is very young here. The way the characters all get ground down is one of the brilliant things about this show. Don't philosophise at me you electronic moron.
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| Travisina |
Posted on 31-12-2022 10:11
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I like the introduction of Vila - you don't know whether to trust him or not. And doesn't he look young, compared to the Vila we saw last week? Yes, I love this rather dark version of Vila. He doesn't really become the class clown until later on. There is no point being grown up if you can't be childish sometimes
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| AnneArthur |
Posted on 31-12-2022 10:12
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Incredibly naive of Varon and his wife to talk so freely in front of that official. |
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| AnneArthur |
Posted on 31-12-2022 10:14
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What on earth is Tarrant playing at turning up like that? It looks as though it is deliberate, to rub it in to Blake's mind. In the new Big Finish novelisation, the writer Paul Cornell goes deep into everyone's motivations and backgrounds... Why do I always have more things to spend my money on than actual money? |
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| Obsidian |
Posted on 31-12-2022 10:15
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Vila is also, evidently, quite a gossip-gatherer. He knows all about Jenna and, as we see, all about Avon, or at least, the gossip about them.
Don't philosophise at me you electronic moron.
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| Travisina |
Posted on 31-12-2022 10:16
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Incredibly naive of Varon and his wife to talk so freely in front of that official. Necessary for the plot, but it does make them out to be a bit stupid. Or because of the Federation 'class system', and they are obviously upper grades, they disregard the security person as the upper classes would ignore and speak freely in front of their servants. There is no point being grown up if you can't be childish sometimes
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| Travisina |
Posted on 31-12-2022 10:16
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What on earth is Tarrant playing at turning up like that? It looks as though it is deliberate, to rub it in to Blake's mind. In the new Big Finish novelisation, the writer Paul Cornell goes deep into everyone's motivations and backgrounds... Why do I always have more things to spend my money on than actual money? 
There is no point being grown up if you can't be childish sometimes
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| M1795537OCVirn |
Posted on 31-12-2022 10:16
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I like the introduction of Vila - you don't know whether to trust him or not. And doesn't he look young, compared to the Vila we saw last week? Yes, I love this rather dark version of Vila. He doesn't really become the class clown until later on. Yes, he's much more believable like this. Until he realises that among a group of paranoids clowning (seeming harmless rather than worryingly clever) gives him an advantage, especially when people like Tarrant turn up. "You're not sulking, I hope?"
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| AnneArthur |
Posted on 31-12-2022 10:17
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Vila is also, evidently, quite a gossip-gatherer. He knows all about Jenna and, as we see, all about Avon, or at least, the gossip about them. He's small and lower-class. Gossip is part of what he uses to survive. |
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| Obsidian |
Posted on 31-12-2022 10:17
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What on earth is Tarrant playing at turning up like that? It looks as though it is deliberate, to rub it in to Blake's mind. In the new Big Finish novelisation, the writer Paul Cornell goes deep into everyone's motivations and backgrounds... Why do I always have more things to spend my money on than actual money? As far as Big Finish goes, I'm way behind. Too many other goodies out there. Peter and Paul are regularly robbed. Don't philosophise at me you electronic moron.
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| Travisina |
Posted on 31-12-2022 10:17
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Vila is also, evidently, quite a gossip-gatherer. He knows all about Jenna and, as we see, all about Avon, or at least, the gossip about them. Very slick and sly. It would be a survival thing for him - knowledge is power, when you're physically weak. There is no point being grown up if you can't be childish sometimes
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| AnneArthur |
Posted on 31-12-2022 10:18
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Incredibly naive of Varon and his wife to talk so freely in front of that official. Necessary for the plot, but it does make them out to be a bit stupid. Or because of the Federation 'class system', and they are obviously upper grades, they disregard the security person as the upper classes would ignore and speak freely in front of their servants. Sounds plausible. |
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| Travisina |
Posted on 31-12-2022 10:18
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Vila is also, evidently, quite a gossip-gatherer. He knows all about Jenna and, as we see, all about Avon, or at least, the gossip about them. He's small and lower-class. Gossip is part of what he uses to survive. Snap! I just said almost exactly the same thing! There is no point being grown up if you can't be childish sometimes
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| AnneArthur |
Posted on 31-12-2022 10:19
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Vila is also, evidently, quite a gossip-gatherer. He knows all about Jenna and, as we see, all about Avon, or at least, the gossip about them. He's small and lower-class. Gossip is part of what he uses to survive. Snap! I just said almost exactly the same thing! Great minds think alike! |
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| Obsidian |
Posted on 31-12-2022 10:21
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Vila is also, evidently, quite a gossip-gatherer. He knows all about Jenna and, as we see, all about Avon, or at least, the gossip about them. Very slick and sly. It would be a survival thing for him - knowledge is power, when you're physically weak. I wish he'd stayed that way. In Cygnus Alpha he shows he CAN zap people if needed, but his survival skills mainly lie elsewhere. Having him useless in the killing department was taken a little too far for my liking. Don't philosophise at me you electronic moron.
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| M1795537OCVirn |
Posted on 31-12-2022 10:21
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They really do think the prisoners are thick, don't they? 'Single file...one behind the other...' (sniggering).
"You're not sulking, I hope?"
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| Travisina |
Posted on 31-12-2022 10:22
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I'd love to know who the thief is with the lockpick Varon goes to borrow. A former client that Varon got off the hook?
There is no point being grown up if you can't be childish sometimes
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| Obsidian |
Posted on 31-12-2022 10:22
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They really do think the prisoners are thick, don't they? 'Single file...one behind the other...' (sniggering). Nothing like 'good' tautology to fill the script. Don't philosophise at me you electronic moron.
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| M1795537OCVirn |
Posted on 31-12-2022 10:23
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Vila is also, evidently, quite a gossip-gatherer. He knows all about Jenna and, as we see, all about Avon, or at least, the gossip about them. Very slick and sly. It would be a survival thing for him - knowledge is power, when you're physically weak. I wish he'd stayed that way. In Cygnus Alpha he shows he CAN zap people if needed, but his survival skills mainly lie elsewhere. Having him useless in the killing department was taken a little too far for my liking. Lazy writing, I think. Easier to concentrate on the 'action' and only use Vila (or the girls) as and when the gunslingers run out of ideas. "You're not sulking, I hope?"
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| Travisina |
Posted on 31-12-2022 10:23
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They really do think the prisoners are thick, don't they? 'Single file...one behind the other...' (sniggering). Well, most of them are drugged. And maybe some of them don't speak English? I dunno, just making up excuses here. There is no point being grown up if you can't be childish sometimes
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| AnneArthur |
Posted on 31-12-2022 10:23
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Vila is also, evidently, quite a gossip-gatherer. He knows all about Jenna and, as we see, all about Avon, or at least, the gossip about them. Very slick and sly. It would be a survival thing for him - knowledge is power, when you're physically weak. I wish he'd stayed that way. In Cygnus Alpha he shows he CAN zap people if needed, but his survival skills mainly lie elsewhere. Having him useless in the killing department was taken a little too far for my liking. Perhaps another thing he exaggerated? In Games, I think, he shoots someone very effectively - but out of sight of the others. Perhaps the stress of life on the run pushes him into going OTT on the 'harmless' side of his personality? Edited by AnneArthur on 31-12-2022 10:25 |
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| Obsidian |
Posted on 31-12-2022 10:23
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I'd love to know who the thief is with the lockpick Varon goes to borrow. A former client that Varon got off the hook? Varon becomes clued-in just a little too late. Don't philosophise at me you electronic moron.
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| Travisina |
Posted on 31-12-2022 10:25
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Vila is also, evidently, quite a gossip-gatherer. He knows all about Jenna and, as we see, all about Avon, or at least, the gossip about them. Very slick and sly. It would be a survival thing for him - knowledge is power, when you're physically weak. I wish he'd stayed that way. In Cygnus Alpha he shows he CAN zap people if needed, but his survival skills mainly lie elsewhere. Having him useless in the killing department was taken a little too far for my liking. Perhaps another thing he exaggerated? In Games, I think, he shoots someone very effectively - but out of sight of the others. And the way he decks Arlen shows someone used to hand to hand combat? There is no point being grown up if you can't be childish sometimes
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| Travisina |
Posted on 31-12-2022 10:26
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The London take-off is a marvelous model sequence. Hurrah for CGI not having been invented yet!
There is no point being grown up if you can't be childish sometimes
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| M1795537OCVirn |
Posted on 31-12-2022 10:26
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Has anyone ever written lyrics for the B7 theme tune?
"You're not sulking, I hope?"
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| Obsidian |
Posted on 31-12-2022 10:27
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Vila is also, evidently, quite a gossip-gatherer. He knows all about Jenna and, as we see, all about Avon, or at least, the gossip about them. Very slick and sly. It would be a survival thing for him - knowledge is power, when you're physically weak. I wish he'd stayed that way. In Cygnus Alpha he shows he CAN zap people if needed, but his survival skills mainly lie elsewhere. Having him useless in the killing department was taken a little too far for my liking. Perhaps another thing he exaggerated? In Games, I think, he shoots someone very effectively - but out of sight of the others. He does, and there's another instance earlier on (Travisina will probably remember) where he does. He can, but perhaps he allows other people to take responsibility for doing most of it. We all have things we allow others to take on if they're more adept or inclined, or just plain it's a dirty job but someone's got to do it. Don't philosophise at me you electronic moron.
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| AnneArthur |
Posted on 31-12-2022 10:27
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Vila is also, evidently, quite a gossip-gatherer. He knows all about Jenna and, as we see, all about Avon, or at least, the gossip about them. Very slick and sly. It would be a survival thing for him - knowledge is power, when you're physically weak. I wish he'd stayed that way. In Cygnus Alpha he shows he CAN zap people if needed, but his survival skills mainly lie elsewhere. Having him useless in the killing department was taken a little too far for my liking. Perhaps another thing he exaggerated? In Games, I think, he shoots someone very effectively - but out of sight of the others. And the way he decks Arlen shows someone used to hand to hand combat? That is very true - I had forgotten that. In fact the whole Arlen manoevre was classy - it wasn't his fault that he hadn't calculated on a whole bunch of Federation troopers! |
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| Obsidian |
Posted on 31-12-2022 10:28
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The London take-off is a marvelous model sequence. Hurrah for CGI not having been invented yet! It is. When we have the scenes of the dome and then cross to the London launch pad. Very effective. I love Scorpio take-offs too. Don't philosophise at me you electronic moron.
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| Travisina |
Posted on 31-12-2022 10:28
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Has anyone ever written lyrics for the B7 theme tune? Vere Lorrimer did, and wanted Steven Pacey to sing them. They were not good! There is no point being grown up if you can't be childish sometimes
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| Obsidian |
Posted on 31-12-2022 10:29
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Has anyone ever written lyrics for the B7 theme tune? Other than Uncle Vere? Dare we? Don't philosophise at me you electronic moron.
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| M1795537OCVirn |
Posted on 31-12-2022 10:30
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Has anyone ever written lyrics for the B7 theme tune? Vere Lorrimer did, and wanted Steven Pacey to sing them. They were not good! Ha ha ha. "You're not sulking, I hope?"
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| Obsidian |
Posted on 31-12-2022 10:30
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Has anyone ever written lyrics for the B7 theme tune? Vere Lorrimer did, and wanted Steven Pacey to sing them. They were not good! Dire, but charmingly Vere Lorrimer dire. Don't philosophise at me you electronic moron.
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| AnneArthur |
Posted on 31-12-2022 10:30
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Vila is also, evidently, quite a gossip-gatherer. He knows all about Jenna and, as we see, all about Avon, or at least, the gossip about them. Very slick and sly. It would be a survival thing for him - knowledge is power, when you're physically weak. I wish he'd stayed that way. In Cygnus Alpha he shows he CAN zap people if needed, but his survival skills mainly lie elsewhere. Having him useless in the killing department was taken a little too far for my liking. Perhaps another thing he exaggerated? In Games, I think, he shoots someone very effectively - but out of sight of the others. He does, and there's another instance earlier on (Travisina will probably remember) where he does. He can, but perhaps he allows other people to take responsibility for doing most of it. We all have things we allow others to take on if they're more adept or inclined, or just plain it's a dirty job but someone's got to do it. Also perhaps a way of mollifying Tarrant in particular? 'He's good at shooting people, and when he's successfully taken down a couple of Federation guards he will feel good about himself, and be less likely to go for me, so why not let him get on with it?' But I think also laziness on Vila's part, which does let him slide into letting the others do that particular piece of dirty work for him, and makes him too dependent. |
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| Obsidian |
Posted on 31-12-2022 10:31
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By the end of that ep, Blake is THE BOSS.
Don't philosophise at me you electronic moron.
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| AnneArthur |
Posted on 31-12-2022 10:32
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Has anyone ever written lyrics for the B7 theme tune? Vere Lorrimer did, and wanted Steven Pacey to sing them. They were not good! Ha ha ha. This is not the 'There's a distant star' that is constantly being slung about on the other thread? If so, that is not a promising beginning. |
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| Obsidian |
Posted on 31-12-2022 10:33
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Vila is also, evidently, quite a gossip-gatherer. He knows all about Jenna and, as we see, all about Avon, or at least, the gossip about them. Very slick and sly. It would be a survival thing for him - knowledge is power, when you're physically weak. I wish he'd stayed that way. In Cygnus Alpha he shows he CAN zap people if needed, but his survival skills mainly lie elsewhere. Having him useless in the killing department was taken a little too far for my liking. Perhaps another thing he exaggerated? In Games, I think, he shoots someone very effectively - but out of sight of the others. He does, and there's another instance earlier on (Travisina will probably remember) where he does. He can, but perhaps he allows other people to take responsibility for doing most of it. We all have things we allow others to take on if they're more adept or inclined, or just plain it's a dirty job but someone's got to do it. Also perhaps a way of mollifying Tarrant in particular? 'He's good at shooting people, and when he's successfully taken down a couple of Federation guards he will feel good about himself, and be less likely to go for me, so why not let him get on with it?' But I think also laziness on Vila's part, which does let him slide into letting the others do that particular piece of dirty work for him, and makes him too dependent. Yes, exactly. Tarrant fancies himself, let him get on with it. Don't philosophise at me you electronic moron.
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| Obsidian |
Posted on 31-12-2022 10:34
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Has anyone ever written lyrics for the B7 theme tune? Vere Lorrimer did, and wanted Steven Pacey to sing them. They were not good! Ha ha ha. This is not the 'There's a distant star' that is constantly being slung about on the other thread? If so, that is not a promising beginning. That's the one! Don't philosophise at me you electronic moron.
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| M1795537OCVirn |
Posted on 31-12-2022 10:35
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By the end of that ep, Blake is THE BOSS. He'd certainly like to think so. I think it's a bit two-way - the rest of them are glad to let him - because they expect the Feds will beat him up sooner rather than later,, and rather him than them. "You're not sulking, I hope?"
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| Travisina |
Posted on 31-12-2022 10:35
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Has anyone ever written lyrics for the B7 theme tune? Vere Lorrimer did, and wanted Steven Pacey to sing them. They were not good! Ha ha ha. This is not the 'There's a distant star' that is constantly being slung about on the other thread? If so, that is not a promising beginning. That's right - it starts "There's a distant star, in a distant sky" - it's the sort of thing you'd get as a theme on a Gerry Anderson, but not as good as Fireball XL5 or Aqua Marina! There is no point being grown up if you can't be childish sometimes
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