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 Rewatch Downunder Saturday 15th June, B11 Gambit
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| M1795537OCVirn |
Posted on 12-06-2024 10:54
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Start times: Downunder 7.30pm, UK 10.30am. B11 Gambit In which we see the irridescent Krantor try (and fail) to outshine the amazing Servalan, the Woman in Red. Well written, great character acting from most, including Orac, but some massive errors, like Jarriere, and the usual interesting ideas that sink into the depths and are never used again. In fact, a typical episode of B7. "You're not sulking, I hope?"
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| dodgyville |
Posted on 14-06-2024 22:02
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Alas I will be at the footy tonight. The weather forecast is "very cold with a chance of serrated ice shards" so pray for me |
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| M1795537OCVirn |
Posted on 15-06-2024 09:24
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I think we can all feel sorry for someone who prioritises footy over B7, but I hope you enjoy your ice shards, dodgyville. We'll miss you.
"You're not sulking, I hope?"
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| M1795537OCVirn |
Posted on 15-06-2024 09:34
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So who else can we expect here today? Obsidian is still out of communicator range, I take it, and my intelligence unit has not located Tyce, so perhaps Joe? And AnneA? I can wait. You rebels will show yourselves in the end.
"You're not sulking, I hope?"
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| M1795537OCVirn |
Posted on 15-06-2024 09:36
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Playing hard to get, eh? I don't mind watching Gambit alone, but I won't be commenting....started.
"You're not sulking, I hope?"
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| AnneArthur |
Posted on 15-06-2024 09:42
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Hi Ms Virn. I've just arrived, and just started. |
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| AnneArthur |
Posted on 15-06-2024 09:44
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I think my main problem with this episode is how Travis managed to get from where he was last week to where he is this week. Presumably we have to assume that a lot of time has passed. Several weeks for Travis to get into character as Shivan, and several more weeks for him to work as Doccholi's bodyguard. |
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| AnneArthur |
Posted on 15-06-2024 09:46
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Presumably the androgynous female MC is a response to the androgynous male MC in Cabaret. |
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| AnneArthur |
Posted on 15-06-2024 09:46
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Intriguing that Servalan has a male mask. |
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| M1795537OCVirn |
Posted on 15-06-2024 09:49
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Hello Anne, I'm so glad you are here. I don't like talking to myself. As to the timeline, I agree: I don't think the writers were thinking about continuity when they wrote their individual episodes. It makes for considerable gaps in the flow of things. The thing that gets me about Gambit is the stupid shape-shifting Orac. Why introduce the possibility if you're never going to mention it again? "You're not sulking, I hope?"
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| M1795537OCVirn |
Posted on 15-06-2024 09:50
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Presumably the androgynous female MC is a response to the androgynous male MC in Cabaret. An interesting idea! "You're not sulking, I hope?"
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| M1795537OCVirn |
Posted on 15-06-2024 09:53
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So now we discover that Travis was operated on by two medics - Docholli and Marryat - to whom he is apparently forever gratful.
"You're not sulking, I hope?"
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| AnneArthur |
Posted on 15-06-2024 09:53
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Hello Anne, I'm so glad you are here. I don't like talking to myself. As to the timeline, I agree: I don't think the writers were thinking about continuity when they wrote their individual episodes. It makes for considerable gaps in the flow of things. The thing that gets me about Gambit is the stupid shape-shifting Orac. Why introduce the possibility if you're never going to mention it again? I know. It would have been useful in so many episodes. |
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| AnneArthur |
Posted on 15-06-2024 09:54
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So now we discover that Travis was operated on by two medics - Docholli and Marryat - to whom he is apparently forever gratful. That arm takes a lot of looking after. |
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| M1795537OCVirn |
Posted on 15-06-2024 09:55
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So now we discover that Travis was operated on by two medics - Docholli and Marryat - to whom he is apparently forever gratful. That arm takes a lot of looking after. Perhaps one was orthopedics and the other neurology? "You're not sulking, I hope?"
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| Joe Dredd |
Posted on 15-06-2024 09:56
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Hello, sorry I'm late. I've got a note from my Mum... The thing that gets me about Gambit is the stupid shape-shifting Orac. Why introduce the possibility if you're never going to mention it again? It's how Avon hides Orac on GP. |
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| AnneArthur |
Posted on 15-06-2024 09:57
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I gather from the Facebook pages that Seek Locate Celebrate went well - lots of good pictures. |
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| M1795537OCVirn |
Posted on 15-06-2024 09:58
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Hello, sorry I'm late. I've got a note from my Mum... The thing that gets me about Gambit is the stupid shape-shifting Orac. Why introduce the possibility if you're never going to mention it again? It's how Avon hides Orac on GP. Ah. Well, never having had the courage to watch Blake again, I hadn't picked up on that. A bit of an afterthought, though. "You're not sulking, I hope?"
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| AnneArthur |
Posted on 15-06-2024 09:59
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Hello, Joe Dredd! |
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| AnneArthur |
Posted on 15-06-2024 09:59
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Hello, sorry I'm late. I've got a note from my Mum... The thing that gets me about Gambit is the stupid shape-shifting Orac. Why introduce the possibility if you're never going to mention it again? It's how Avon hides Orac on GP. Ah. Well, never having had the courage to watch Blake again, I hadn't picked up on that. A bit of an afterthought, though. It isn't mentioned, I think - but it would be one way to do it. |
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| Joe Dredd |
Posted on 15-06-2024 10:00
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How many minutes in are you both? Not a favourite episode. Travis is so easily beaten up, and no one pronounces Cevedic the same way as anyone else. The Docholli = Doc Holliday thing has always made we wonder if there's any significance to the ship being called the 'Baree'. All I can think of is a cattle brand. |
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| Joe Dredd |
Posted on 15-06-2024 10:01
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Hello, sorry I'm late. I've got a note from my Mum... The thing that gets me about Gambit is the stupid shape-shifting Orac. Why introduce the possibility if you're never going to mention it again? It's how Avon hides Orac on GP. Ah. Well, never having had the courage to watch Blake again, I hadn't picked up on that. A bit of an afterthought, though. Sorry Mc Virn, it's just speculation on my part - slightly tongue in cheek. |
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| Joe Dredd |
Posted on 15-06-2024 10:01
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Hello, Joe Dredd! Hello AnneArthur! |
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| AnneArthur |
Posted on 15-06-2024 10:01
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How many minutes in are you both? Not a favourite episode. Travis is so easily beaten up, and no one pronounces Cevedic the same way as anyone else. The Docholli = Doc Holliday thing has always made we wonder if there's any significance to the ship being called the 'Baree'. All I can think of is a cattle brand. I always assumed it was Bari, as in the city in Italy (a sister ship of the London, perhaps?) |
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| M1795537OCVirn |
Posted on 15-06-2024 10:01
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I gather from the Facebook pages that Seek Locate Celebrate went well - lots of good pictures. I don't do FB so I haven't seen the pics. My lasting memory is of seeing Brian Croucher wandering around outside without his minders. Must have managed to escape them. Rebel incompetence! "You're not sulking, I hope?"
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| AnneArthur |
Posted on 15-06-2024 10:02
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Hello, sorry I'm late. I've got a note from my Mum... The thing that gets me about Gambit is the stupid shape-shifting Orac. Why introduce the possibility if you're never going to mention it again? It's how Avon hides Orac on GP. Ah. Well, never having had the courage to watch Blake again, I hadn't picked up on that. A bit of an afterthought, though. Sorry Mc Virn, it's just speculation on my part - slightly tongue in cheek. But it's a good idea - it's a pity it wasn't made explicit. |
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| AnneArthur |
Posted on 15-06-2024 10:03
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I gather from the Facebook pages that Seek Locate Celebrate went well - lots of good pictures. I don't do FB so I haven't seent he pics. My lasting memory is of seeing Brian Croucher wandering around outside without his minders. Must have managed to escape them. Rebel incompetence! Did you enjoy it? |
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| AnneArthur |
Posted on 15-06-2024 10:04
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How many minutes in are you both? Not a favourite episode. Travis is so easily beaten up, and no one pronounces Cevedic the same way as anyone else. The Docholli = Doc Holliday thing has always made we wonder if there's any significance to the ship being called the 'Baree'. All I can think of is a cattle brand. At the moment the Klute has just won the speed chess and is laughing maniacally. |
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| Joe Dredd |
Posted on 15-06-2024 10:04
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My lasting memory is of seeing Brian Croucher wandering around outside without his minders. I hope that's not rhyming slang for something I don't want to know about. |
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| M1795537OCVirn |
Posted on 15-06-2024 10:04
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I gather from the Facebook pages that Seek Locate Celebrate went well - lots of good pictures. I don't do FB so I haven't seent he pics. My lasting memory is of seeing Brian Croucher wandering around outside without his minders. Must have managed to escape them. Rebel incompetence! Did you enjoy it? Had a lovely time talking to some special people, notably Obsidian, Tyce, AnnieW, Purple Cleric and Diane herself. "You're not sulking, I hope?"
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| Joe Dredd |
Posted on 15-06-2024 10:04
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Apples and pears |
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| Joe Dredd |
Posted on 15-06-2024 10:06
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At the moment the Klute has just won the speed chess and is laughing maniacally. Thanks AA. Thanks also for the thought about Bari. |
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| M1795537OCVirn |
Posted on 15-06-2024 10:07
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I wonder what Jacs felt about having to explain the whole plot via Jarriere.
"You're not sulking, I hope?"
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| AnneArthur |
Posted on 15-06-2024 10:07
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I gather from the Facebook pages that Seek Locate Celebrate went well - lots of good pictures. I don't do FB so I haven't seent he pics. My lasting memory is of seeing Brian Croucher wandering around outside without his minders. Must have managed to escape them. Rebel incompetence! Did you enjoy it? Had a lovely time talking to some special people, notably Obsidian, Tyce, AnnieW, Purple Cleric and Diane herself. Good. I'm supposed to be meeting Obsidian at Bamburgh next Saturday. I'm hoping she will get in touch soon. |
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| Joe Dredd |
Posted on 15-06-2024 10:08
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Had a lovely time talking to some special people, notably Obsidian, Tyce, AnnieW, Purple Cleric and Diane herself. I was told Sally Knyvette mentioned she'd recorded commentaries for the S1 Blu-ray. |
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| AnneArthur |
Posted on 15-06-2024 10:09
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I wonder what Jacs felt about having to explain the whole plot via Jarriere. It's a major weakness of the episode. |
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| Joe Dredd |
Posted on 15-06-2024 10:10
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I wonder what Jacs felt about having to explain the whole plot via Jarriere. The character has to be played as a dimwit, but he doesn't seem the type of person Servalan would bring along as back up. |
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| AnneArthur |
Posted on 15-06-2024 10:12
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That cat looks drugged. |
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| Joe Dredd |
Posted on 15-06-2024 10:13
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It's very much a costume-box episode - gangsters, nuns, wild west saloon owner... |
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| AnneArthur |
Posted on 15-06-2024 10:13
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Is it reasonable that Chenie hasn't heard of Servalan? Surely everyone would know who she is? |
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