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Joe Dredd
I love the way BC leaps through the door.
 
Joe Dredd
(sotto voice) Shh! I think they're back!
 
M1795537OCVirn
HA! I'm back. And hopefully AnneA is too. Sorry about that glitch folks. The rebels will do anything to stop me going on about Servalan.
"You're not sulking, I hope?"
 
AnneArthur
Back now - but the connection went completely just then.
 
Obsidian

Joe Dredd wrote: ↑

I love the way BC leaps through the door.


Me too. On his way to notoreity.
Don't philosophise at me you electronic moron.
 
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AnneArthur
Is this attack actually Blake's greatest success? Ironic if so.
 
Obsidian
Is the UK back? Should we rewatch the last 10 mins or so?
Don't philosophise at me you electronic moron.
 
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Joe Dredd

Obsidian wrote: ↑

Joe Dredd wrote: ↑

I love the way BC leaps through the door.


Me too. On his way to notoreity.


It fits the urgency of the situation so well, and it's full of energy. I love Paul Darrow's acting, but there's a couple of times he has to fall to the floor and it looks more like 'let me lower myself down here' than 'OH NO! I'VE SUDDENLY TRIPPED WHILE SCRAMBLING MADLY FOR SCORPIO'S AIRLOCK!"
 
Obsidian

AnneArthur wrote: ↑

Is this attack actually Blake's greatest success? Ironic if so.


Ah, you are here. Good.

It seems more like a defeat to me. Chris Boucher loves building in a bit of irony.
Don't philosophise at me you electronic moron.
 
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AnneArthur
I don't like the ending of this one. Blake and Avon bonding in an uneasy way by laughing at Vila - status quo ante.
 
M1795537OCVirn

Obsidian wrote: ↑

Is the UK back? Should we rewatch the last 10 mins or so?


Not really necessary. I can save up whatever I might have said until next year. Except - Shove Credit sounds like a fun game, Joe, but I'm still busy with Pseudo atm.
"You're not sulking, I hope?"
 
Joe Dredd

AnneArthur wrote: ↑

Vila - status quo ante.


No, no, they said Vila was a flea, not an ant-y.
 
Obsidian

Joe Dredd wrote: ↑

Obsidian wrote: ↑

Joe Dredd wrote: ↑

I love the way BC leaps through the door.


Me too. On his way to notoreity.


It fits the urgency of the situation so well, and it's full of energy. I love Paul Darrow's acting, but there's a couple of times he has to fall to the floor and it looks more like 'let me lower myself down here' than 'OH NO! I'VE SUDDENLY TRIPPED WHILE SCRAMBLING MADLY FOR SCORPIO'S AIRLOCK!"


The mattresses weren't there to catch his falls.
Don't philosophise at me you electronic moron.
 
https://www.seraglio-design.com/
M1795537OCVirn

AnneArthur wrote: ↑

I don't like the ending of this one. Blake and Avon bonding in an uneasy way by laughing at Vila - status quo ante.


Totally agree. It feels so forced!
"You're not sulking, I hope?"
 
AnneArthur

Obsidian wrote: ↑

AnneArthur wrote: ↑

Is this attack actually Blake's greatest success? Ironic if so.


Ah, you are here. Good.

It seems more like a defeat to me. Chris Boucher loves building in a bit of irony.


How a defeat, when they have just trialled a successful detection screen, and have inflicted a heavy blow on Space Command headquarters, killing a large number of officers? If they had just got Travis as well, of course . . .
 
Joe Dredd

AnneArthur wrote: ↑

If they had just got Travis as well, of course . . .


Not to mention Servalan, the Supreme Commander.
 
AnneArthur

Joe Dredd wrote: ↑

Obsidian wrote: ↑

Joe Dredd wrote: ↑

I love the way BC leaps through the door.


Me too. On his way to notoreity.


It fits the urgency of the situation so well, and it's full of energy. I love Paul Darrow's acting, but there's a couple of times he has to fall to the floor and it looks more like 'let me lower myself down here' than 'OH NO! I'VE SUDDENLY TRIPPED WHILE SCRAMBLING MADLY FOR SCORPIO'S AIRLOCK!"


Gareth Thomas also tripped very awkwardly in this one. I agree the Brian Croucher is in another league altogether.
 
M1795537OCVirn

Joe Dredd wrote: ↑

AnneArthur wrote: ↑

If they had just got Travis as well, of course . . .


Not to mention Servalan, the Supreme Commander.


No chance. Her office is totally protected. Anyway, we know they didn't. Silly idea.
"You're not sulking, I hope?"
 
AnneArthur

M1795537OCVirn wrote: ↑

AnneArthur wrote: ↑

I don't like the ending of this one. Blake and Avon bonding in an uneasy way by laughing at Vila - status quo ante.


Totally agree. It feels so forced!


I suppose (to play Devil's advocate) that it is supposed to feel forced. We are back where we were, but so nearly weren't. But I still don't like it.
 
Joe Dredd

Obsidian wrote: ↑

The mattresses weren't there to catch his falls.


True - there's no way there wasn't something around for BC to thrown himself into. They should've had something similar for PD, and filmed it so it was out of shot.
 
Obsidian

AnneArthur wrote: ↑

I don't like the ending of this one. Blake and Avon bonding in an uneasy way by laughing at Vila - status quo ante.


I think it's nerves – nervously being chummy because the alternative of Blake going AWOL permanently/Oh heck, I Blake, am going AWOL permanently is too hideous to contemplate. It's two tom cats doing displacement behaviour after a tussle. Directing things elsewhere (to Vila) is a normal part of that pattern.
Don't philosophise at me you electronic moron.
 
https://www.seraglio-design.com/
Obsidian

AnneArthur wrote: ↑

M1795537OCVirn wrote: ↑

AnneArthur wrote: ↑

I don't like the ending of this one. Blake and Avon bonding in an uneasy way by laughing at Vila - status quo ante.


Totally agree. It feels so forced!


I suppose (to play Devil's advocate) that it is supposed to feel forced. We are back where we were, but so nearly weren't. But I still don't like it.


Pretty much what I say below. It's basic psychology. The alpha blokes re-establishing their positions with sort of, maybe, perhaps, some differences..
Don't philosophise at me you electronic moron.
 
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Joe Dredd
Yes - this is only a little while after Blake said to Avon that the next death could be his.

Now we'll have a chummy laugh together.

(The laughing at Vila doesn't worry me so much - I see it more as gentle ribbing.)
 
Obsidian

Joe Dredd wrote: ↑

Obsidian wrote: ↑

The mattresses weren't there to catch his falls.


True - there's no way there wasn't something around for BC to thrown himself into. They should've had something similar for PD, and filmed it so it was out of shot.


PD sort of throws himself forward and ought to have cracked his knee caps had he really hit the ground the way he's meant to. Maybe he declined the mattress. Idiot!
Don't philosophise at me you electronic moron.
 
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Joe Dredd

Obsidian wrote: ↑

Maybe he declined the mattress. Idiot!


True - after all, he always said "I did all my own stunts... What an idiot!"
 
Obsidian

Joe Dredd wrote: ↑

Yes - this is only a little while after Blake said to Avon that the next death could be his.

Now we'll have a chummy laugh together.

(The laughing at Vila doesn't worry me so much - I see it more as gentle ribbing.)


Exactly. UNEASE.
Don't philosophise at me you electronic moron.
 
https://www.seraglio-design.com/
AnneArthur

Obsidian wrote: ↑

AnneArthur wrote: ↑

I don't like the ending of this one. Blake and Avon bonding in an uneasy way by laughing at Vila - status quo ante.


I think it's nerves – nervously being chummy because the alternative of Blake going AWOL permanently/Oh heck, I Blake, am going AWOL permanently is too hideous to contemplate. It's two tom cats doing displacement behaviour after a tussle. Directing things elsewhere (to Vila) is a normal part of that pattern.


Which would also explain the ending of Powerplay? Avon deals with the new threat of Tarrant by directing laughter elsewhere - again at Vila?
 
Obsidian

AnneArthur wrote: ↑

Obsidian wrote: ↑

AnneArthur wrote: ↑

Is this attack actually Blake's greatest success? Ironic if so.


Ah, you are here. Good.

It seems more like a defeat to me. Chris Boucher loves building in a bit of irony.


How a defeat, when they have just trialled a successful detection screen, and have inflicted a heavy blow on Space Command headquarters, killing a large number of officers? If they had just got Travis as well, of course . . .


That's the irony, because if Travis hadn't got away to start thinking up ways to get back at his tormentors, where would we be for the next couple of series?
Don't philosophise at me you electronic moron.
 
https://www.seraglio-design.com/
AnneArthur

Obsidian wrote: ↑

AnneArthur wrote: ↑

Obsidian wrote: ↑

AnneArthur wrote: ↑

Is this attack actually Blake's greatest success? Ironic if so.


Ah, you are here. Good.

It seems more like a defeat to me. Chris Boucher loves building in a bit of irony.


How a defeat, when they have just trialled a successful detection screen, and have inflicted a heavy blow on Space Command headquarters, killing a large number of officers? If they had just got Travis as well, of course . . .


That's the irony, because if Travis hadn't got away to start thinking up ways to get back at his tormentors, where would we be for the next couple of series?


I see. So, their greatest technical success, coming off the back of their greatest defeat, ironically sowing the seeds of further defeat?
 
Joe Dredd

M1795537OCVirn wrote: ↑

Shove Credit sounds like a fun game, Joe, but I'm still busy with Pseudo atm.


Don't tell me we've invented another one!

Perhaps the salt & pepper shakers act like obstacles, like in bar billiards. And instead of everyone travelling up the same board in turns, everyone had their own 'long triangle' slice of pie on the table? That would make the high scoring area at the top more challenging, as it's much smaller than the wide area at the edge.

I'm worried that this all makes some kind of sense.
 
M1795537OCVirn

Obsidian wrote: ↑

Joe Dredd wrote: ↑

Yes - this is only a little while after Blake said to Avon that the next death could be his.

Now we'll have a chummy laugh together.

(The laughing at Vila doesn't worry me so much - I see it more as gentle ribbing.)


Exactly. UNEASE.


Uneasy and FORCED delivery. Maybe they just wanted to get this scene over with. (But I agree with you about why they're doing it. It's what blokes do, but we don't often get to see it so publicly).
"You're not sulking, I hope?"
 
Obsidian

AnneArthur wrote: ↑

Obsidian wrote: ↑

AnneArthur wrote: ↑

I don't like the ending of this one. Blake and Avon bonding in an uneasy way by laughing at Vila - status quo ante.


I think it's nerves – nervously being chummy because the alternative of Blake going AWOL permanently/Oh heck, I Blake, am going AWOL permanently is too hideous to contemplate. It's two tom cats doing displacement behaviour after a tussle. Directing things elsewhere (to Vila) is a normal part of that pattern.


Which would also explain the ending of Powerplay? Avon deals with the new threat of Tarrant by directing laughter elsewhere - again at Vila?


Yes, that's how I see it.
Don't philosophise at me you electronic moron.
 
https://www.seraglio-design.com/
M1795537OCVirn

Joe Dredd wrote: ↑

M1795537OCVirn wrote: ↑

Shove Credit sounds like a fun game, Joe, but I'm still busy with Pseudo atm.


Don't tell me we've invented another one!

Perhaps the salt & pepper shakers act like obstacles, like in bar billiards. And instead of everyone travelling up the same board in turns, everyone had their own 'long triangle' slice of pie on the table? That would make the high scoring area at the top more challenging, as it's much smaller than the wide area at the edge.

I'm worried that this all makes some kind of sense.



Er.... not really. Perhaps an illustration would help?
"You're not sulking, I hope?"
 
Obsidian

M1795537OCVirn wrote: ↑

Obsidian wrote: ↑

Joe Dredd wrote: ↑

Yes - this is only a little while after Blake said to Avon that the next death could be his.

Now we'll have a chummy laugh together.

(The laughing at Vila doesn't worry me so much - I see it more as gentle ribbing.)


Exactly. UNEASE.


Uneasy and FORCED delivery. Maybe they just wanted to get this scene over with. (But I agree with you about why they're doing it. It's what blokes do, but we don't often get to see it so publicly).


Haha! I just trimmed my answer but, yes, it is what blokes do; they direct problem issues away from themselves while women (poor mugs) tend to take them on-board.
Don't philosophise at me you electronic moron.
 
https://www.seraglio-design.com/
Obsidian

AnneArthur wrote: ↑

Obsidian wrote: ↑

AnneArthur wrote: ↑

Obsidian wrote: ↑

AnneArthur wrote: ↑

Is this attack actually Blake's greatest success? Ironic if so.


Ah, you are here. Good.

It seems more like a defeat to me. Chris Boucher loves building in a bit of irony.


How a defeat, when they have just trialled a successful detection screen, and have inflicted a heavy blow on Space Command headquarters, killing a large number of officers? If they had just got Travis as well, of course . . .


That's the irony, because if Travis hadn't got away to start thinking up ways to get back at his tormentors, where would we be for the next couple of series?


I see. So, their greatest technical success, coming off the back of their greatest defeat, ironically sowing the seeds of further defeat?


That's my take on it, and I think Chris Boucher's twisted little mind – which I admire greatly – worked exactly like that. The reason why B7 is such good drama.
Don't philosophise at me you electronic moron.
 
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Joe Dredd

M1795537OCVirn wrote: ↑

Er.... not really. Perhaps an illustration would help?


This is probably a silly question, but do you know how Shove Ha'penny is played? And that they take turn using the board?
 
M1795537OCVirn
Well, I'd love to stay here listening to all your little squabbles etc etc, but IT'S SUNNY OUTSIDE! I'm going to go and enjoy it. Sorry it's raining down there (not).
Still wondering where Pilot disappears to. Nice to know he's with us in spirit, though.
"You're not sulking, I hope?"
 
Joe Dredd

Obsidian wrote: ↑

it is what blokes do; they direct problem issues away from themselves while women (poor mugs) tend to take them on-board.


Erm...
 
Obsidian

Joe Dredd wrote: ↑

M1795537OCVirn wrote: ↑

It's what blokes do


Mea culpa!

But if I'm guilty... then so are all of..er, THEM!


Psychology 101. It's largely cultural, of course, but that culture has had a hold a VERY long time.
Don't philosophise at me you electronic moron.
 
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M1795537OCVirn

Joe Dredd wrote: ↑

M1795537OCVirn wrote: ↑

Er.... not really. Perhaps an illustration would help?


This is probably a silly question, but do you know how Shove Ha'penny is played? And that they take turn using the board?


Sure. We have a board somewhere...
"You're not sulking, I hope?"
 
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