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Rewatch Downunder Saturday 9th September C11 Moloch
M1795537OCVirn

Joe Dredd wrote: ↑

I'm wondering if the names 'Grose' and 'Lector' are derived from 'gross' and 'lecher', and if so whether the name 'Doran' was transformed from some other negative term. It's probably coincidence and has no bearing.


The first two almost certainly. LIke when I wrote my pantomime and the two henchmen were called 'Rob' and 'Nick'.
"You're not sulking, I hope?"
 
M1795537OCVirn

Obsidian wrote: ↑

M1795537OCVirn wrote: ↑

Obsidian wrote: ↑

And I do like Avon's decision to run. Though everyone and everyTHING gets blasted in the last few minutes, I still like running as a serious mission-statement. Smile



Why the mutoid, Obsidian? What do these things MEAN???


The mutoid is the equivalent of 😃
The Grin is the equivalent of đŸ¤Ŗ


Thanks for trying.
"You're not sulking, I hope?"
 
Joe Dredd

M1795537OCVirn wrote: ↑

when I wrote my pantomime and the two henchmen were called 'Rob' and 'Nick'.


What pantomime was this? Do tell, do tell!
 
Obsidian

Joe Dredd wrote: ↑

I'm wondering if the names 'Grose' and 'Lector' are derived from 'gross' and 'lecher', and if so whether the name 'Doran' was transformed from some other negative term. It's probably coincidence and has no bearing.


I don't know. I wondered if they were taken from names in literature, the way that Chris Brookmyre took the name of the character Jack Parlabane from Robertson Davies books, and several other character's names. Do check out his 'Bedlam" and 'Places in the Darkness' for some good sci-fi writing and B7 references.
Don't philosophise at me you electronic moron.
 
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AnneArthur
Well, not one of my favourite episodes. I think the whole 'future human turns out of be a pathetic homunculus' thing is a bit hackneyed. But it has its moments. Death Watch is much more fun, I think.
 
AnneArthur

Obsidian wrote: ↑

Joe Dredd wrote: ↑

I'm wondering if the names 'Grose' and 'Lector' are derived from 'gross' and 'lecher', and if so whether the name 'Doran' was transformed from some other negative term. It's probably coincidence and has no bearing.


I don't know. I wondered if they were taken from names in literature, the way that Chris Brookmyre took the name of the character Jack Parlabane from Robertson Davies books, and several other character's names. Do check out his 'Bedlam" and 'Places in the Darkness' for some good sci-fi writing and B7 references.


I have never been able to get on with Robertson Davies at all.
 
M1795537OCVirn

Joe Dredd wrote: ↑

M1795537OCVirn wrote: ↑

when I wrote my pantomime and the two henchmen were called 'Rob' and 'Nick'.


What pantomime was this? Do tell, do tell!


Sleeping Beauty. Performed locally in 2017 (I think). Spoiler alert: she stayed asleep.
 
AnneArthur
Any link with Hannibal Lecter? The episode does reference cannibalism at one point.
 
M1795537OCVirn

AnneArthur wrote: ↑

Well, not one of my favourite episodes. I think the whole 'future human turns out of be a pathetic homunculus' thing is a bit hackneyed. But it has its moments. Death Watch is much more fun, I think.


And another scene where Servalan kisses Avon and doesn't die!
"You're not sulking, I hope?"
 
Obsidian
Wink = 😉
Sad = â˜šī¸
Angry= 😲
Frown = 😐
etc. because if you don't want to select from the menu, that's how your type them.
Don't philosophise at me you electronic moron.
 
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Obsidian

AnneArthur wrote: ↑

Obsidian wrote: ↑

Joe Dredd wrote: ↑

I'm wondering if the names 'Grose' and 'Lector' are derived from 'gross' and 'lecher', and if so whether the name 'Doran' was transformed from some other negative term. It's probably coincidence and has no bearing.


I don't know. I wondered if they were taken from names in literature, the way that Chris Brookmyre took the name of the character Jack Parlabane from Robertson Davies books, and several other character's names. Do check out his 'Bedlam" and 'Places in the Darkness' for some good sci-fi writing and B7 references.


I have never been able to get on with Robertson Davies at all.


Ah. I LOVE him.
Don't philosophise at me you electronic moron.
 
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M1795537OCVirn

AnneArthur wrote: ↑

Any link with Hannibal Lecter? The episode does reference cannibalism at one point.


Also very possible.
"You're not sulking, I hope?"
 
Obsidian

M1795537OCVirn wrote: ↑

AnneArthur wrote: ↑

Well, not one of my favourite episodes. I think the whole 'future human turns out of be a pathetic homunculus' thing is a bit hackneyed. But it has its moments. Death Watch is much more fun, I think.


And another scene where Servalan kisses Avon and doesn't die!


Some gals have all the luck.
Don't philosophise at me you electronic moron.
 
https://www.seraglio-design.com/
Obsidian

AnneArthur wrote: ↑

Well, not one of my favourite episodes. I think the whole 'future human turns out of be a pathetic homunculus' thing is a bit hackneyed. But it has its moments. Death Watch is much more fun, I think.


Well, they're going to turn into something pathetic if they eat only cooked greens and nuts, but the likelihood of their having any brain cells to rub together in that instance seems slight.
Don't philosophise at me you electronic moron.
 
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M1795537OCVirn

Obsidian wrote: ↑

Wink = 😉
Sad = â˜šī¸
Angry= 😲
Frown = 😐
etc. because if you don't want to select from the menu, that's how your type them.


So simple when you know!
So what do the other emojis mean? (Don't bother, I'll ask one of my cadets).

Great episode, brilliant comments as always, Anne opening up things with new ideas, Obsidian telling us like it is...I love Aussie rewatches!
"You're not sulking, I hope?"
 
Joe Dredd

Obsidian wrote: ↑

Joe Dredd wrote: ↑

I'm wondering if the names 'Grose' and 'Lector' are derived from 'gross' and 'lecher', and if so whether the name 'Doran' was transformed from some other negative term. It's probably coincidence and has no bearing.


I don't know. I wondered if they were taken from names in literature, the way that Chris Brookmyre took the name of the character Jack Parlabane from Robertson Davies books, and several other character's names. Do check out his 'Bedlam" and 'Places in the Darkness' for some good sci-fi writing and B7 references.


I'm not sure Ben Steed is that clever. Even Chris Boucher just used names of people he hated working with. (He didn't even file the serial numbers off when he copied "The Picture of Dorian Gray". I mean, at least change the guy's name, CB!)
 
Obsidian

M1795537OCVirn wrote: ↑

AnneArthur wrote: ↑

Any link with Hannibal Lecter? The episode does reference cannibalism at one point.


Also very possible.


Yes, the book was much earlier than the film; however, it is Lector here, not Lecter. The Grose always seems to me to relate to the informal English and the French and German etc. - big, fat, heavy.
Don't philosophise at me you electronic moron.
 
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AnneArthur
Where do all the Tarrants come from, then? Did Terry Nation have a hated workmate called Tarrant, or soemthing?
 
AnneArthur

Obsidian wrote: ↑

AnneArthur wrote: ↑

Well, not one of my favourite episodes. I think the whole 'future human turns out of be a pathetic homunculus' thing is a bit hackneyed. But it has its moments. Death Watch is much more fun, I think.


Well, they're going to turn into something pathetic if they eat only cooked greens and nuts, but the likelihood of their having any brain cells to rub together in that instance seems slight.


I just think it's a bit obvious - and ultimately derives from The War of the Worlds, where the Martians are basically hands and brains.
 
Obsidian

Joe Dredd wrote: ↑

Obsidian wrote: ↑

Joe Dredd wrote: ↑

I'm wondering if the names 'Grose' and 'Lector' are derived from 'gross' and 'lecher', and if so whether the name 'Doran' was transformed from some other negative term. It's probably coincidence and has no bearing.


I don't know. I wondered if they were taken from names in literature, the way that Chris Brookmyre took the name of the character Jack Parlabane from Robertson Davies books, and several other character's names. Do check out his 'Bedlam" and 'Places in the Darkness' for some good sci-fi writing and B7 references.


I'm not sure Ben Steed is that clever. Even Chris Boucher just used names of people he hated working with. (He didn't even file the serial numbers off when he copied "The Picture of Dorian Gray". I mean, at least change the guy's name, CB!)


I think he was a lot smarter than many warrant him with, but 'gross!' was an expletive of the 1970s and it comes from German "grosse" and French "gros' and they all mean pretty much what the actor who plays him does his best to impart. Hannibal Lecter was published in Silence of the Lambs later than this series so our Lector didn't come from that. Possible was someone spiteful BS knew.
Don't philosophise at me you electronic moron.
 
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Joe Dredd

AnneArthur wrote: ↑

Where do all the Tarrants come from, then? Did Terry Nation have a hated workmate called Tarrant, or soemthing?


Apparently it's a reference to his own name.
 
Obsidian

AnneArthur wrote: ↑

Where do all the Tarrants come from, then? Did Terry Nation have a hated workmate called Tarrant, or soemthing?


I think he just liked the name. He used it in Dr Who too.
Don't philosophise at me you electronic moron.
 
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Joe Dredd

Obsidian wrote: ↑

I think he was a lot smarter than many warrant him with, but 'gross!' was an expletive of the 1970s and it comes from German "grosse" and French "gros' and they all mean pretty much what the actor who plays him does his best to impart.


Yes, I definitely agree with that.
 
Obsidian

AnneArthur wrote: ↑

Obsidian wrote: ↑

AnneArthur wrote: ↑

Well, not one of my favourite episodes. I think the whole 'future human turns out of be a pathetic homunculus' thing is a bit hackneyed. But it has its moments. Death Watch is much more fun, I think.


Well, they're going to turn into something pathetic if they eat only cooked greens and nuts, but the likelihood of their having any brain cells to rub together in that instance seems slight.


I just think it's a bit obvious - and ultimately derives from The War of the Worlds, where the Martians are basically hands and brains.


Possibly, but in B7 we do see a bit of a pondering about what humans will become, not what we might expect to see out of other so-called intelligent life forms. Most humans aren't intelligent and most of the things with which they credit themselves over other creatures aren't theirs solely, to wit: the ability to plan and/or use tools.
Don't philosophise at me you electronic moron.
 
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Joe Dredd
Well, thank you everyone for the company and conversation.

Obsidian, I hope you get a good rest and your body clock settles back to normal soon.

Good night (morning) all!
 
Obsidian

Joe Dredd wrote: ↑

Obsidian wrote: ↑

I think he was a lot smarter than many warrant him with, but 'gross!' was an expletive of the 1970s and it comes from German "grosse" and French "gros' and they all mean pretty much what the actor who plays him does his best to impart.


Yes, I definitely agree with that.


I still use it occasionally when acting '70s teenage seems appropriate... Grin
Don't philosophise at me you electronic moron.
 
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Obsidian

Joe Dredd wrote: ↑

Well, thank you everyone for the company and conversation.

Obsidian, I hope you get a good rest and your body clock settles back to normal soon.

Good night (morning) all!


So glad you could make it Joe and really hope we get a chance to catch up later in the year either through Sirens or the long-overdue Tyce-Con II.

I'm putting together a B7 glass ware collection and need a name for it: Vila's Guide to B7 Barware or something.

Must go have my dinner. Thanks for the great rewatch everyone. Hopefully will catch up again next week.
Don't philosophise at me you electronic moron.
 
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AnneArthur

Obsidian wrote: ↑

AnneArthur wrote: ↑

Where do all the Tarrants come from, then? Did Terry Nation have a hated workmate called Tarrant, or soemthing?


I think he just liked the name. He used it in Dr Who too.


Yes, I remember a fanfic once, in which all the Tarrants meet each other!
 
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