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Rewatch Downunder - D4 Stardrive, Saturday 22nd October
M1795537OCVirn
Obsidian says: There are girl Space Rats. They are the people being slobbered over on the lounge. Remember what Vila says about them being into violence and speed etc.

My point exactly then! Still 'girly' roles and no bikes for them!
"You're not sulking, I hope?"
 
Obsidian

Travisina wrote: ↑

AnneArthur wrote: ↑

Travisina wrote: ↑

AnneArthur wrote: ↑

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I honestly see no reason why Avon goes doolally here. He makes a dumb decision which is outdated (being 50 yards from something, rather than metric) and then has an anxiety attack. I know he's worried he's losing it, but still, it seems very out of character.


On the metric issue, I always find it amusing - so many centuries into the future, and we still haven't made up our minds which system we are using!

Hi Anne!
Well, we're now the next century along from when B7 was made and we haven't made up our minds, so why would the 3rd Calendar be any different?

We drive in miles, fill our cars in litres, beer comes in pints, milk in litres. I miss the old days of pounds shillings and ounces!


I usually find it easier to visualize distances/quantities in imperial, but I never really learned how the different units relate to one another - is it 16 ounces 1 pound, 14 pounds 1 stone - or the other way around?

That's the right way round. My bathroom scales have both kilos & pounds/stones, which is handy when comparing weight loss with my (metric) sister!

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However, when my scales got stuck in metric a couple of years ago, I found it very easy to convert to thinking of my weight in kilos, and now I naturally think that way.

For me it depends on whether I've gained or lost weight Grin

I like Centigrade rather than Fahrenheit, makes so much sense - especially for cooking (and at university, biology & chemistry labs). But try following an American recipe! Everything is in cups and Fahrenheit...

Just use equivalent cups for cups and use a chart if you can't remember the degree equivalences. I don't have a problem remembering them possibly because so many recipe books from the '70s and '80s had charts in them.
Don't philosophise at me you electronic moron.
 
https://www.seraglio-design.com/
AnneArthur

Travisina wrote: ↑

Obsidian wrote: ↑

M1795537OCVirn wrote: ↑

I mean, if we're talking anachronisms, why were there no girl Space Rats? Or are we back to a Seskas and Hommicks kind of thing? I mean, Dr P can't do all the housework AND solve the drive problems...

There are girl Space Rats. They are the people being slobbered over on the lounge. Remember what Vila says about them being into violence and speed etc.

Another anachronism is Murphy's Law.

Is it anachronistic, though? Plenty of evidence still exists to support that Law!
I find his riddles in 'Ultraworld' much worse - 'parking meteors'? Try explaining that to a modern audience!


I would agree. So many of those jokes are out of date now, let alone however many hundred years into the future we are.
 
Obsidian

M1795537OCVirn wrote: ↑

Obsidian says: There are girl Space Rats. They are the people being slobbered over on the lounge. Remember what Vila says about them being into violence and speed etc.

My poiint exactly! Still 'girly' roles and no bikes for them!


From what Vila said, that wasn't always the case. Maybe they looked at the stupid trikes and could tell straight away that they were dumb and dangerous and not in a good way. After all, look at those pumped up tyres... Sheesh.
Don't philosophise at me you electronic moron.
 
https://www.seraglio-design.com/
M1795537OCVirn
Just use equivalent cups for cups and use a chart if you can't remember the degree equivalences. I don't have a problem remembering them possibly because so many recipe books from the '70s and '80s had charts in them.[/quote]


Like this one?
https://www.dovesfarm.co.uk/hints-&-t...sion-table

(We Feds like to be helpful).
"You're not sulking, I hope?"
 
M1795537OCVirn

Obsidian wrote: ↑

M1795537OCVirn wrote: ↑

Obsidian says: There are girl Space Rats. They are the people being slobbered over on the lounge. Remember what Vila says about them being into violence and speed etc.

My poiint exactly! Still 'girly' roles and no bikes for them!


From what Vila said, that wasn't always the case. Maybe they looked at the stupid trikes and could tell straight away that they were dumb and dangerous and not in a good way. After all, look at those pumped up tyres... Sheesh.


I hadn't realised quite how much you hated this episode.....
"You're not sulking, I hope?"
 
Travisina

Obsidian wrote: ↑


Just use equivalent cups for cups and use a chart if you can't remember the degree equivalences. I don't have a problem remembering them possibly because so many recipe books from the '70s and '80s had charts in them.

Ah, but how big is a 'cup'? We only have mugs, in a variety of sizes...
Luckily, we also have kitchen scales in metric & imperial.
Anyway, I'm rubbish at any cooking that requires accurate measurement (eg baking), tend to bung everything into a pan and hope for the best!
There is no point being grown up if you can't be childish sometimes
 
Obsidian

Travisina wrote: ↑

Obsidian wrote: ↑

M1795537OCVirn wrote: ↑

I mean, if we're talking anachronisms, why were there no girl Space Rats? Or are we back to a Seskas and Hommicks kind of thing? I mean, Dr P can't do all the housework AND solve the drive problems...

There are girl Space Rats. They are the people being slobbered over on the lounge. Remember what Vila says about them being into violence and speed etc.

Another anachronism is Murphy's Law.

Is it anachronistic, though? Plenty of evidence still exists to support that Law!
I find his riddles in 'Ultraworld' much worse - 'parking meteors'? Try explaining that to a modern audience!


It would have transmuted into some other name entirely. Mr. Murphy wouldn't still be getting the credit and very likely it's meaning would have changed as well. After all, many sayings or terms invented only in the 19th century have changed considerably since then.
Don't philosophise at me you electronic moron.
 
https://www.seraglio-design.com/
Travisina

M1795537OCVirn wrote: ↑

Just use equivalent cups for cups and use a chart if you can't remember the degree equivalences. I don't have a problem remembering them possibly because so many recipe books from the '70s and '80s had charts in them.



Like this one?
https://www.dovesfarm.co.uk/hints-&-t...sion-table

(We Feds like to be helpful).[/quote]
Ooh, that's handy! Thanks, M!
There is no point being grown up if you can't be childish sometimes
 
AnneArthur
The buggies are very much of the period. You could even get one for a Sindy doll!
 
Obsidian

Travisina wrote: ↑

Obsidian wrote: ↑


Just use equivalent cups for cups and use a chart if you can't remember the degree equivalences. I don't have a problem remembering them possibly because so many recipe books from the '70s and '80s had charts in them.

Ah, but how big is a 'cup'? We only have mugs, in a variety of sizes...
Luckily, we also have kitchen scales in metric & imperial.
Anyway, I'm rubbish at any cooking that requires accurate measurement (eg baking), tend to bung everything into a pan and hope for the best!


A metric cup is 250ml. Who cares what a US one is? Just use relative amounts.
Don't philosophise at me you electronic moron.
 
https://www.seraglio-design.com/
Obsidian

AnneArthur wrote: ↑

The buggies are very much of the period. You could even get one for a Sindy doll!


Grin Grin Grin

My Sindys were a little too early for one.
Don't philosophise at me you electronic moron.
 
https://www.seraglio-design.com/
Travisina

Obsidian wrote: ↑

Travisina wrote: ↑

Obsidian wrote: ↑


Just use equivalent cups for cups and use a chart if you can't remember the degree equivalences. I don't have a problem remembering them possibly because so many recipe books from the '70s and '80s had charts in them.

Ah, but how big is a 'cup'? We only have mugs, in a variety of sizes...
Luckily, we also have kitchen scales in metric & imperial.
Anyway, I'm rubbish at any cooking that requires accurate measurement (eg baking), tend to bung everything into a pan and hope for the best!


A metric cup is 250ml. Who cares what a US one is? Just use relative amounts.

METRIC CUP???
I knew not of such a thing, thought it was just an American things. Now I''m proper confused!
There is no point being grown up if you can't be childish sometimes
 
Obsidian
Avon could have given Dr. Plaxton a few more seconds...
Don't philosophise at me you electronic moron.
 
https://www.seraglio-design.com/
Travisina
Avon: "Who?"
That is beyond callous. Never mind that she was dead either way, at least he could have acknowledged her sacrifice.
So many reasons to dislike this episode, but that really takes the biscuit. Frown
There is no point being grown up if you can't be childish sometimes
 
AnneArthur

Obsidian wrote: ↑

Travisina wrote: ↑

Obsidian wrote: ↑

M1795537OCVirn wrote: ↑

I mean, if we're talking anachronisms, why were there no girl Space Rats? Or are we back to a Seskas and Hommicks kind of thing? I mean, Dr P can't do all the housework AND solve the drive problems...

There are girl Space Rats. They are the people being slobbered over on the lounge. Remember what Vila says about them being into violence and speed etc.

Another anachronism is Murphy's Law.

Is it anachronistic, though? Plenty of evidence still exists to support that Law!
I find his riddles in 'Ultraworld' much worse - 'parking meteors'? Try explaining that to a modern audience!


It would have transmuted into some other name entirely. Mr. Murphy wouldn't still be getting the credit and very likely it's meaning would have changed as well. After all, many sayings or terms invented only in the 19th century have changed considerably since then.


Quite possibly - but why is that so much worse than the jokes in Ultraworld?

Mind you, I understand a little thing spoiling an episode. I really hate Killer, because I can't get past the fact that Avon, Vila and Blake visit a space station where a deadly airborne virus is raging, and none of them worries about catching it.
 
M1795537OCVirn

Travisina wrote: ↑

Obsidian wrote: ↑

Travisina wrote: ↑

Obsidian wrote: ↑


Just use equivalent cups for cups and use a chart if you can't remember the degree equivalences. I don't have a problem remembering them possibly because so many recipe books from the '70s and '80s had charts in them.

Ah, but how big is a 'cup'? We only have mugs, in a variety of sizes...
Luckily, we also have kitchen scales in metric & imperial.
Anyway, I'm rubbish at any cooking that requires accurate measurement (eg baking), tend to bung everything into a pan and hope for the best!


A metric cup is 250ml. Who cares what a US one is? Just use relative amounts.

METRIC CUP???
I knew not of such a thing, thought it was just an American things. Now I''m proper confused!


American metric cups are 240ml. They use cups because settlers didn't always have a set of scales handy when travelling about in their covered wagons etc etc. Allegedly.
"You're not sulking, I hope?"
 
Obsidian

Travisina wrote: ↑

Obsidian wrote: ↑

Travisina wrote: ↑

Obsidian wrote: ↑


Just use equivalent cups for cups and use a chart if you can't remember the degree equivalences. I don't have a problem remembering them possibly because so many recipe books from the '70s and '80s had charts in them.

Ah, but how big is a 'cup'? We only have mugs, in a variety of sizes...
Luckily, we also have kitchen scales in metric & imperial.
Anyway, I'm rubbish at any cooking that requires accurate measurement (eg baking), tend to bung everything into a pan and hope for the best!


A metric cup is 250ml. Who cares what a US one is? Just use relative amounts.

METRIC CUP???
I knew not of such a thing, thought it was just an American things. Now I''m proper confused!


A metric cup is a quarter of a litre. The US uses it's own measures that relate not even to British Imperial quantities. That's why I use relative amounts. Check your local kitchen store to see if they have jugs with imperial (pints/cups) and metric (litres/cups) marked on them. If you find one it will be the best thing you ever bought. They are still readily available here even though we've had metric for ages. Want one?
Don't philosophise at me you electronic moron.
 
https://www.seraglio-design.com/
Travisina

Obsidian wrote: ↑

Travisina wrote: ↑

Obsidian wrote: ↑

Travisina wrote: ↑

Obsidian wrote: ↑


Just use equivalent cups for cups and use a chart if you can't remember the degree equivalences. I don't have a problem remembering them possibly because so many recipe books from the '70s and '80s had charts in them.

Ah, but how big is a 'cup'? We only have mugs, in a variety of sizes...
Luckily, we also have kitchen scales in metric & imperial.
Anyway, I'm rubbish at any cooking that requires accurate measurement (eg baking), tend to bung everything into a pan and hope for the best!


A metric cup is 250ml. Who cares what a US one is? Just use relative amounts.

METRIC CUP???
I knew not of such a thing, thought it was just an American things. Now I''m proper confused!


A metric cup is a quarter of a litre. The US uses it's own measures that relate not even to British Imperial quantities. That's why I use relative amounts. Check your local kitchen store to see if they have jugs with imperial (pints/cups) and metric (litres/cups) marked on them. If you find one it will be the best thing you ever bought. They are still readily available here even though we've had metric for ages. Want one?

I'll have a look! I'm off to Sainsbury's after the pedicure (what an exciting day), and they have a good kitchen department...
There is no point being grown up if you can't be childish sometimes
 
AnneArthur
Rewatching this episode, I think that Avon's actions make sense in the light of his continuing decline. Because he no longer trusts his judgment, and because he is afraid that the others will not trust it either, he feels the need to prove to himself that he is utterly cold and ruthless. Having done this, he can relax a little again.
 
Obsidian

AnneArthur wrote: ↑

Obsidian wrote: ↑

Travisina wrote: ↑

Obsidian wrote: ↑

M1795537OCVirn wrote: ↑

I mean, if we're talking anachronisms, why were there no girl Space Rats? Or are we back to a Seskas and Hommicks kind of thing? I mean, Dr P can't do all the housework AND solve the drive problems...

There are girl Space Rats. They are the people being slobbered over on the lounge. Remember what Vila says about them being into violence and speed etc.

Another anachronism is Murphy's Law.

Is it anachronistic, though? Plenty of evidence still exists to support that Law!
I find his riddles in 'Ultraworld' much worse - 'parking meteors'? Try explaining that to a modern audience!


It would have transmuted into some other name entirely. Mr. Murphy wouldn't still be getting the credit and very likely it's meaning would have changed as well. After all, many sayings or terms invented only in the 19th century have changed considerably since then.


Quite possibly - but why is that so much worse than the jokes in Ultraworld?

Mind you, I understand a little thing spoiling an episode. I really hate Killer, because I can't get past the fact that Avon, Vila and Blake visit a space station where a deadly airborne virus is raging, and none of them worries about catching it.


The jokes in Ultraworld are dire but are meant to be comedic (would have cheered the kiddies) and so are. Mr. Follett's script doesn't not carry that intention.
Don't philosophise at me you electronic moron.
 
https://www.seraglio-design.com/
Travisina
Okay, folks - gotta dash off.

Thanks for the company, it was fun! Stay well everyone (and look after yourself, Anne) - probably won't see you next week...
There is no point being grown up if you can't be childish sometimes
 
AnneArthur
This is what I have - I would really recommend these.
https://www.josephjoseph.com/products...ulticolour

Now how did you do that, Ms Virn?
Edited by AnneArthur on 22-10-2022 10:32
 
M1795537OCVirn
Don't you just love these Aussie rewatches! You can learn so much. Never was a Saturday morning /evening better spent.
Sorry this wasn't up to your standards, Obsidian - hope the next one is more to your liking.

In case you were wondering, my guest made her own toast, because I 'looked busy'. Oh well.

Thanks for the company. Have a great pedicure, Travisina. See you all next time, I hope.
"You're not sulking, I hope?"
 
Obsidian

M1795537OCVirn wrote: ↑

Obsidian wrote: ↑

M1795537OCVirn wrote: ↑

Obsidian says: There are girl Space Rats. They are the people being slobbered over on the lounge. Remember what Vila says about them being into violence and speed etc.

My poiint exactly! Still 'girly' roles and no bikes for them!


From what Vila said, that wasn't always the case. Maybe they looked at the stupid trikes and could tell straight away that they were dumb and dangerous and not in a good way. After all, look at those pumped up tyres... Sheesh.


I hadn't realised quite how much you hated this episode.....


I think it's because some people at the time would have thought "This isn't the future, this is me now, and someone is parodying me." It's too close for comfort.
Don't philosophise at me you electronic moron.
 
https://www.seraglio-design.com/
Obsidian

Travisina wrote: ↑

Okay, folks - gotta dash off.

Thanks for the company, it was fun! Stay well everyone (and look after yourself, Anne) - probably won't see you next week...


Enjoy the pampering Travisina!
Don't philosophise at me you electronic moron.
 
https://www.seraglio-design.com/
AnneArthur

Obsidian wrote: ↑

AnneArthur wrote: ↑

Obsidian wrote: ↑

Travisina wrote: ↑

Obsidian wrote: ↑

M1795537OCVirn wrote: ↑

I mean, if we're talking anachronisms, why were there no girl Space Rats? Or are we back to a Seskas and Hommicks kind of thing? I mean, Dr P can't do all the housework AND solve the drive problems...

There are girl Space Rats. They are the people being slobbered over on the lounge. Remember what Vila says about them being into violence and speed etc.

Another anachronism is Murphy's Law.

Is it anachronistic, though? Plenty of evidence still exists to support that Law!
I find his riddles in 'Ultraworld' much worse - 'parking meteors'? Try explaining that to a modern audience!


It would have transmuted into some other name entirely. Mr. Murphy wouldn't still be getting the credit and very likely it's meaning would have changed as well. After all, many sayings or terms invented only in the 19th century have changed considerably since then.


Quite possibly - but why is that so much worse than the jokes in Ultraworld?

Mind you, I understand a little thing spoiling an episode. I really hate Killer, because I can't get past the fact that Avon, Vila and Blake visit a space station where a deadly airborne virus is raging, and none of them worries about catching it.


The jokes in Ultraworld are dire but are meant to be comedic (would have cheered the kiddies) and so are. Mr. Follett's script doesn't not carry that intention.


Ah! I think I find 'meant to be comedic' makes 'not comedic at all' even worse!
 
M1795537OCVirn

Obsidian wrote: ↑

M1795537OCVirn wrote: ↑

Obsidian wrote: ↑

M1795537OCVirn wrote: ↑

Obsidian says: There are girl Space Rats. They are the people being slobbered over on the lounge. Remember what Vila says about them being into violence and speed etc.

My poiint exactly! Still 'girly' roles and no bikes for them!


From what Vila said, that wasn't always the case. Maybe they looked at the stupid trikes and could tell straight away that they were dumb and dangerous and not in a good way. After all, look at those pumped up tyres... Sheesh.


I hadn't realised quite how much you hated this episode.....


I think it's because some people at the time would have thought "This isn't the future, this is me now, and someone is parodying me." It's too close for comfort.


Understood.
"You're not sulking, I hope?"
 
Obsidian

AnneArthur wrote: ↑

This is what I have - I would really recommend these.
https://www.josephjoseph.com/products...ulticolour


Yes, all of those. I've been through quite a few sets and demoted some to other uses – helped by my nearest and dearest melting some of them...
Don't philosophise at me you electronic moron.
 
https://www.seraglio-design.com/
AnneArthur

Obsidian wrote: ↑

M1795537OCVirn wrote: ↑

Obsidian wrote: ↑

M1795537OCVirn wrote: ↑

Obsidian says: There are girl Space Rats. They are the people being slobbered over on the lounge. Remember what Vila says about them being into violence and speed etc.

My poiint exactly! Still 'girly' roles and no bikes for them!


From what Vila said, that wasn't always the case. Maybe they looked at the stupid trikes and could tell straight away that they were dumb and dangerous and not in a good way. After all, look at those pumped up tyres... Sheesh.


I hadn't realised quite how much you hated this episode.....


I think it's because some people at the time would have thought "This isn't the future, this is me now, and someone is parodying me." It's too close for comfort.


That makes sense.
 
Obsidian

M1795537OCVirn wrote: ↑



In case you were wondering, my guest made her own toast, because I 'looked busy'. Oh well.


Oops. I feel a bit mean when that happens.
Edited by Obsidian on 22-10-2022 10:36
Don't philosophise at me you electronic moron.
 
https://www.seraglio-design.com/
AnneArthur
Thanks for the rewatch everyone - makes a nice respite from my house falling apart/the government falling apart, even if it wasn't one of the better episodes. Enjoy the pedicure, Travesina, have a nice time with your guest, Ms Virn, and hopefully see you all next week.
 
M1795537OCVirn

AnneArthur wrote: ↑

This is what I have - I would really recommend these.
https://www.josephjoseph.com/products...ulticolour

Now how did you do that, Ms Virn?


Copy the link into your post, highlight it, then click the URL button below - it's the big round blue one, 5th from the left. Preview changes to check that it worked!
"You're not sulking, I hope?"
 
Obsidian

AnneArthur wrote: ↑

Thanks for the rewatch everyone - makes a nice respite from my house falling apart/the government falling apart, even if it wasn't one of the better episodes. Enjoy the pedicure, Travesina, have a nice time with your guest, Ms Virn, and hopefully see you all next week.


I feel for you Anne. Don't push the Covid recovery even if the house has gone to wrack and ruin.

And I feel for all of you over there re the government. Decline and fall. Frown

Have a good week everyone! Hopefully Tyce will be back with us next week instead of wrangling some woes as she was this time around.
Don't philosophise at me you electronic moron.
 
https://www.seraglio-design.com/
AnneArthur

M1795537OCVirn wrote: ↑

AnneArthur wrote: ↑

This is what I have - I would really recommend these.
https://www.josephjoseph.com/products...ulticolour

Now how did you do that, Ms Virn?


Copy the link into your post, highlight it, then click the URL button below - it's the big round blue one, 5th from the left. Preview changes to check that it worked!


Thank you!
 
AnneArthur

Obsidian wrote: ↑

AnneArthur wrote: ↑

Thanks for the rewatch everyone - makes a nice respite from my house falling apart/the government falling apart, even if it wasn't one of the better episodes. Enjoy the pedicure, Travesina, have a nice time with your guest, Ms Virn, and hopefully see you all next week.


I feel for you Anne. Don't push the Covid recovery even if the house has gone to wrack and ruin.

And I feel for all of you over there re the government. Decline and fall. Frown

Have a good week everyone! Hopefully Tyce will be back with us next week instead of wrangling some woes as she was this time around.


Oh poor Tyce!

Re. the goverment, it's the idea of the Once and Future Boris that really annoys me. It was only a few months ago that he completely lost the confidence of his MPs!
 
AnneArthur
Unfortunately, I can't take it easy at work. I've been offered some fairly easy and very lucrative work (which I need, given the amount I am spending on plumbers/electricians/etc.), but it has to be done by Christmas, and I am already playing catch up!

However, we plough on . . .
 
Obsidian

AnneArthur wrote: ↑

Obsidian wrote: ↑

AnneArthur wrote: ↑

Thanks for the rewatch everyone - makes a nice respite from my house falling apart/the government falling apart, even if it wasn't one of the better episodes. Enjoy the pedicure, Travesina, have a nice time with your guest, Ms Virn, and hopefully see you all next week.


I feel for you Anne. Don't push the Covid recovery even if the house has gone to wrack and ruin.

And I feel for all of you over there re the government. Decline and fall. Frown

Have a good week everyone! Hopefully Tyce will be back with us next week instead of wrangling some woes as she was this time around.


Oh poor Tyce!

Re. the goverment, it's the idea of the Once and Future Boris that really annoys me. It was only a few months ago that he completely lost the confidence of his MPs!


Can't argue with you regarding Boris but the alternatives are equally hideous. 'Confidence' isn't a word I'd apply to any of them. Hopefully, you won't have to wait too long to find out what you're in for. Statesmanship got lost under a rock long ago. Commiserations.
Don't philosophise at me you electronic moron.
 
https://www.seraglio-design.com/
Obsidian

AnneArthur wrote: ↑

Unfortunately, I can't take it easy at work. I've been offered some fairly easy and very lucrative work (which I need, given the amount I am spending on plumbers/electricians/etc.), but it has to be done by Christmas, and I am already playing catch up!

However, we plough on . . .


Good luck with that Anne. xx
Don't philosophise at me you electronic moron.
 
https://www.seraglio-design.com/
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