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 Rewatch Downunder: B4 Horizon - Saturday 23 April
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| M1795537OCVirn |
Posted on 23-04-2022 09:58
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Prior wrote for several 70's/80's TV series, I think. Plus other stuff.
"You're not sulking, I hope?"
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| Travisina |
Posted on 23-04-2022 09:58
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The link back to the London and Pora is effective. It is. We never see it happen, but it's credible given the time scale. Fan fic? There is no point being grown up if you can't be childish sometimes
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| AnneArthur |
Posted on 23-04-2022 09:59
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I'm liking the grumpy crew in this episode. Me too. The dialogue in this ep is particularly good. Allan Prior. The good writers stand out, don't they? This is his best, though. The others are Hostage (meh), The Keeper (okay, I like that one), Volcano (don't like that one) and Animals... say no more! Yes, I thought I had seen his name attached to episodes I didn't like that much. This is definitely the best of the lot. |
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| Travisina |
Posted on 23-04-2022 09:59
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Just once, I would like to see a sci-fi film/tv programme where mining is fully mechanized and not done by slave labour. Where's the fun in that? Spoken as a Fed, you understand. I wasn't thinking of the fun, so much as extracting much needed minerals efficiently. And avoiding cliches! Ha ha, especially avoiding cliches! There is no point being grown up if you can't be childish sometimes
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| AnneArthur |
Posted on 23-04-2022 10:00
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Just once, I would like to see a sci-fi film/tv programme where mining is fully mechanized and not done by slave labour. We see that in Games, don't we? Yes! The one exception. |
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| Obsidian |
Posted on 23-04-2022 10:01
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I'm liking the grumpy crew in this episode. Me too. The dialogue in this ep is particularly good. Allan Prior. The good writers stand out, don't they? This is his best, though. The others are Hostage (meh), The Keeper (okay, I like that one), Volcano (don't like that one) and Animals... say no more! I think Animals got stuffed around by cast changes etc. and could have been better. I don't see the script as being majorly at fault. The Keeper I like and the other two aren't so bad, there are just other things that are better. I like this ep. a lot for the subject matter. Gosh, I'd love to meet Chris Boucher. Don't philosophise at me you electronic moron.
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| M1795537OCVirn |
Posted on 23-04-2022 10:01
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They could do with a few Hugbots down those mines.
"You're not sulking, I hope?"
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| Travisina |
Posted on 23-04-2022 10:02
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Vila sounds like an idle rich person "Work?!?" It can't be that strange a concept for someone growing up in the lower grades of the Dome. Even if he was a professional thief / pickpocket, that would have seemed like work to him - ie a way of getting the means to survive (Maslow's hierarchy begins with food, shelter, basics etc) There is no point being grown up if you can't be childish sometimes
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| Obsidian |
Posted on 23-04-2022 10:04
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Those torture frames look very like assorted sleeping platform frames seen in the mechanics souqs of Syria, where welding is done – entertainingly – with minimal protection.
Don't philosophise at me you electronic moron.
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| M1795537OCVirn |
Posted on 23-04-2022 10:04
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Vila sounds like an idle rich person "Work?!?" It can't be that strange a concept for someone growing up in the lower grades of the Dome. Even if he was a professional thief / pickpocket, that would have seemed like work to him - ie a way of getting the means to survive (Maslow's hierarchy begins with food, shelter, basics etc) Work happens when someone else is telling you what to do. "You're not sulking, I hope?"
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| Travisina |
Posted on 23-04-2022 10:04
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I'm liking the grumpy crew in this episode. Me too. The dialogue in this ep is particularly good. Allan Prior. The good writers stand out, don't they? This is his best, though. The others are Hostage (meh), The Keeper (okay, I like that one), Volcano (don't like that one) and Animals... say no more! I think Animals got stuffed around by cast changes etc. and could have been better. I don't see the script as being majorly at fault. The Keeper I like and the other two aren't so bad, there are just other things that are better. I like this ep. a lot for the subject matter. Gosh, I'd love to meet Chris Boucher. We (Horizon) interviewed him years ago in his haunted room at a grotty convention hotel, with pigeons on the windowsill interrupting us. There is no point being grown up if you can't be childish sometimes
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| Obsidian |
Posted on 23-04-2022 10:05
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They could do with a few Hugbots down those mines. They would have been highly effective – NOT. Don't philosophise at me you electronic moron.
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| Travisina |
Posted on 23-04-2022 10:06
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They could do with a few Hugbots down those mines. They would have been highly effective – NOT. They'd have just set everything on fire and melted each other! There is no point being grown up if you can't be childish sometimes
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| Obsidian |
Posted on 23-04-2022 10:06
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Vila sounds like an idle rich person "Work?!?" It can't be that strange a concept for someone growing up in the lower grades of the Dome. Even if he was a professional thief / pickpocket, that would have seemed like work to him - ie a way of getting the means to survive (Maslow's hierarchy begins with food, shelter, basics etc) Work happens when someone else is telling you what to do. That sounds about right. From most of Vila's comments, he enjoyed his "work" and was proud of his achievements. A good tradesman. Don't philosophise at me you electronic moron.
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| Obsidian |
Posted on 23-04-2022 10:07
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They could do with a few Hugbots down those mines. They would have been highly effective – NOT. They'd have just set everything on fire and melted each other!  I always like the flamethrower where the flame flops on the ground over a few metres.
Don't philosophise at me you electronic moron.
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| M1795537OCVirn |
Posted on 23-04-2022 10:08
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Interesting that Avon insists Orac is an 'it', yet he says 'we' when finding out if he can survive without the others.
"You're not sulking, I hope?"
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| Obsidian |
Posted on 23-04-2022 10:08
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Beautiful Ro and Selma. I badly want her outfit. The Fortuny pleats and feathers are fab.
Don't philosophise at me you electronic moron.
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| Obsidian |
Posted on 23-04-2022 10:10
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Interesting that Avon insists Orac is an 'it', yet he says 'we' when finding out if he can survive without the others. True. I think the Royal 'we' is acceptable in those circumstances. Don't philosophise at me you electronic moron.
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| M1795537OCVirn |
Posted on 23-04-2022 10:12
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Interesting that Avon insists Orac is an 'it', yet he says 'we' when finding out if he can survive without the others. True. I think the Royal 'we' is acceptable in those circumstances. Maybe he's including the Liberator as well. "You're not sulking, I hope?"
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| Obsidian |
Posted on 23-04-2022 10:12
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I'm liking the grumpy crew in this episode. Me too. The dialogue in this ep is particularly good. Allan Prior. The good writers stand out, don't they? This is his best, though. The others are Hostage (meh), The Keeper (okay, I like that one), Volcano (don't like that one) and Animals... say no more! I think Animals got stuffed around by cast changes etc. and could have been better. I don't see the script as being majorly at fault. The Keeper I like and the other two aren't so bad, there are just other things that are better. I like this ep. a lot for the subject matter. Gosh, I'd love to meet Chris Boucher. We (Horizon) interviewed him years ago in his haunted room at a grotty convention hotel, with pigeons on the windowsill interrupting us. I wonder if he's still good for a visit? (says she, hopefully) Don't philosophise at me you electronic moron.
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| Obsidian |
Posted on 23-04-2022 10:13
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Interesting that Avon insists Orac is an 'it', yet he says 'we' when finding out if he can survive without the others. True. I think the Royal 'we' is acceptable in those circumstances. Maybe he's including the Liberator as well. That was what I was thinking as he wouldn't be totally alone but with other vaguely intelligent 'entities'. Don't philosophise at me you electronic moron.
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| Travisina |
Posted on 23-04-2022 10:14
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Beautiful Ro and Selma. I badly want her outfit. The Fortuny pleats and feathers are fab. Everybody is so beautiful in this ep. The costumes, the way the actors are framed and lit. There is no point being grown up if you can't be childish sometimes
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| AnneArthur |
Posted on 23-04-2022 10:14
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Cally's telepathic powers seem a little different here. She can't usually read people, can she? |
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| Travisina |
Posted on 23-04-2022 10:15
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I'm liking the grumpy crew in this episode. Me too. The dialogue in this ep is particularly good. Allan Prior. The good writers stand out, don't they? This is his best, though. The others are Hostage (meh), The Keeper (okay, I like that one), Volcano (don't like that one) and Animals... say no more! I think Animals got stuffed around by cast changes etc. and could have been better. I don't see the script as being majorly at fault. The Keeper I like and the other two aren't so bad, there are just other things that are better. I like this ep. a lot for the subject matter. Gosh, I'd love to meet Chris Boucher. We (Horizon) interviewed him years ago in his haunted room at a grotty convention hotel, with pigeons on the windowsill interrupting us. I wonder if he's still good for a visit? (says she, hopefully) I don't know - he's not done a convention for a very long time. Might be worth asking someone who's in touch with him. Ian Kubiak? There is no point being grown up if you can't be childish sometimes
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| Obsidian |
Posted on 23-04-2022 10:15
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"Ro's" (Darien Angadi's) brother commented on something about this ep. on Making B7 on Twitter. He's very like him.
Don't philosophise at me you electronic moron.
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| Travisina |
Posted on 23-04-2022 10:16
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Cally's telepathic powers seem a little different here. She can't usually read people, can she? No, indeed. Another writer bending the rules of her telepathy to suit the plot. But I forgive him - this time! There is no point being grown up if you can't be childish sometimes
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| AnneArthur |
Posted on 23-04-2022 10:16
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Ah - I wonder if the Commissar is right. Maybe the information about how Ro's father died is what ORAC found out, and what Cally thought Blake needed to know. |
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| Obsidian |
Posted on 23-04-2022 10:17
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I wonder if he's still good for a visit? (says she, hopefully) I don't know - he's not done a convention for a very long time. Might be worth asking someone who's in touch with him. Ian Kubiak? You're right. Ian Kubiak may be the guy to ask. Don't philosophise at me you electronic moron.
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| Obsidian |
Posted on 23-04-2022 10:18
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Cally's telepathic powers seem a little different here. She can't usually read people, can she? No, indeed. Another writer bending the rules of her telepathy to suit the plot. But I forgive him - this time! The number of BF stories that push that particular envelope, so to speak, makes me cringe a bit. Don't philosophise at me you electronic moron.
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| Obsidian |
Posted on 23-04-2022 10:19
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Dirty Vila is perfect.
Don't philosophise at me you electronic moron.
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| M1795537OCVirn |
Posted on 23-04-2022 10:19
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I'd rather they push the telepathy thing than forget it altogether, which so many do.
"You're not sulking, I hope?"
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| Travisina |
Posted on 23-04-2022 10:19
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Gorgeous Ro in full headress and bare chest. Sigh...
There is no point being grown up if you can't be childish sometimes
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| Travisina |
Posted on 23-04-2022 10:20
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Dirty Vila is perfect. Everybody else showered and cleaned up - did they use all the hot water? There is no point being grown up if you can't be childish sometimes
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| Travisina |
Posted on 23-04-2022 10:21
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Actually, Jenna is still in grubby clothes.
There is no point being grown up if you can't be childish sometimes
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| AnneArthur |
Posted on 23-04-2022 10:21
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I like Avon's conversation with ORAC - his doubts about whether he can survive alone. |
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| M1795537OCVirn |
Posted on 23-04-2022 10:21
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Dirty Vila is perfect. Everybody else showered and cleaned up - did they use all the hot water? Jenna's still filthy. "You're not sulking, I hope?"
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| Obsidian |
Posted on 23-04-2022 10:22
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I'd rather they push the telepathy thing than forget it altogether, which so many do. Oh yes, I agree with you there. Maybe the writers were a little afraid of it, feeling they almost had to make it a dramatis persona of its own, whereas it could have continued to work as a subtle undercurrent throughout. Don't philosophise at me you electronic moron.
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| M1795537OCVirn |
Posted on 23-04-2022 10:23
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Is this where the comedy endings start to go really downhill?
"You're not sulking, I hope?"
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Posted on 23-04-2022 10:24
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Gorgeous Ro in full headress and bare chest. Sigh... Those costumes have to be some of the best and I'd love to know where they ended up so that I can have a peer at them. Don't philosophise at me you electronic moron.
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| Obsidian |
Posted on 23-04-2022 10:26
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I like Avon's conversation with ORAC - his doubts about whether he can survive alone. You can tell he's "conflicted" as they say today. Having doubts for sure. Don't philosophise at me you electronic moron.
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