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Rewatch Downunder Saturday 20th January A3 CYGNUS ALPHA
M1795537OCVirn

AnneArthur wrote: ↑

Obsidian wrote: ↑

M1795537OCVirn wrote: ↑

I see no cows. Where'd he get that marrowbone?


Maybe there's grass somewhere.

Cygnus alpha as seen right now looks more like the scenery from Echo and the Bunnymen's "Killing Moon" video.


Do we think that this is because it is night, and that it might be a bit less bleak by daylight? Maybe even some grass?


Buddleia?
"You're not sulking, I hope?"
 
Obsidian

AnneArthur wrote: ↑

Obsidian wrote: ↑

M1795537OCVirn wrote: ↑

I see no cows. Where'd he get that marrowbone?


Maybe there's grass somewhere.

Cygnus alpha as seen right now looks more like the scenery from Echo and the Bunnymen's "Killing Moon" video.


Do we think that this is because it is night, and that it might be a bit less bleak by daylight? Maybe even some grass?


My thoughts entirely, but cows still seem unlikely. Maybe brontosaurus.
Don't philosophise at me you electronic moron.
 
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Tyce
Those prisoners don’t look overly docile to me.
 
AnneArthur

M1795537OCVirn wrote: ↑

Bracelets. So whoever built the Liberator must have arms, or something like them.


Or necks, or tentacles, or just very thin bodies? But we find later that they are actor-shaped aliens.
 
Obsidian

M1795537OCVirn wrote: ↑

AnneArthur wrote: ↑

Obsidian wrote: ↑

M1795537OCVirn wrote: ↑

I see no cows. Where'd he get that marrowbone?


Maybe there's grass somewhere.

Cygnus alpha as seen right now looks more like the scenery from Echo and the Bunnymen's "Killing Moon" video.


Do we think that this is because it is night, and that it might be a bit less bleak by daylight? Maybe even some grass?


Buddleia?


Possibly. They seem to grow anywhere. Out of cracks in the footpath in some places (central London).
Don't philosophise at me you electronic moron.
 
https://www.seraglio-design.com/
AnneArthur

M1795537OCVirn wrote: ↑

AnneArthur wrote: ↑

Obsidian wrote: ↑

M1795537OCVirn wrote: ↑

I see no cows. Where'd he get that marrowbone?


Maybe there's grass somewhere.

Cygnus alpha as seen right now looks more like the scenery from Echo and the Bunnymen's "Killing Moon" video.


Do we think that this is because it is night, and that it might be a bit less bleak by daylight? Maybe even some grass?


Buddleia?


Almost certainly.
 
Tyce
They only release the prisoners once they’ve taken off. What happens if something goes wrong with the release mechanism??
 
M1795537OCVirn

AnneArthur wrote: ↑

M1795537OCVirn wrote: ↑

Bracelets. So whoever built the Liberator must have arms, or something like them.


Or necks, or tentacles, or just very thin bodies? But we find later that they are actor-shaped aliens.


Those things get everywhere!
"You're not sulking, I hope?"
 
Obsidian

Tyce wrote: ↑

They only release the prisoners once they’ve taken off. What happens if something goes wrong with the release mechanism??


Not a concern of the Feds, I would assume.
Don't philosophise at me you electronic moron.
 
https://www.seraglio-design.com/
AnneArthur

Obsidian wrote: ↑

M1795537OCVirn wrote: ↑

AnneArthur wrote: ↑

Obsidian wrote: ↑

M1795537OCVirn wrote: ↑

I see no cows. Where'd he get that marrowbone?


Maybe there's grass somewhere.

Cygnus alpha as seen right now looks more like the scenery from Echo and the Bunnymen's "Killing Moon" video.


Do we think that this is because it is night, and that it might be a bit less bleak by daylight? Maybe even some grass?


Buddleia?


Possibly. They seem to grow anywhere. Out of cracks in the footpath in some places (central London).


I once rented a house with a largish buddleia growing out of the garden wall. It eventually brought the wall down in a storm.
 
M1795537OCVirn

Tyce wrote: ↑

They only release the prisoners once they’ve taken off. What happens if something goes wrong with the release mechanism??


Who cares? Prisoners have been delivered. Job done.
"You're not sulking, I hope?"
 
Obsidian

AnneArthur wrote: ↑

Obsidian wrote: ↑

M1795537OCVirn wrote: ↑

AnneArthur wrote: ↑

Obsidian wrote: ↑

M1795537OCVirn wrote: ↑

I see no cows. Where'd he get that marrowbone?


Maybe there's grass somewhere.

Cygnus alpha as seen right now looks more like the scenery from Echo and the Bunnymen's "Killing Moon" video.


Do we think that this is because it is night, and that it might be a bit less bleak by daylight? Maybe even some grass?


Buddleia?


Possibly. They seem to grow anywhere. Out of cracks in the footpath in some places (central London).


I once rented a house with a largish buddleia growing out of the garden wall. It eventually brought the wall down in a storm.


That's impressive, as buddleia is quite a brittle plant. Not even really strong roots. A friend's house here is definitely held together with ivy.
Don't philosophise at me you electronic moron.
 
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AnneArthur

Tyce wrote: ↑

They only release the prisoners once they’ve taken off. What happens if something goes wrong with the release mechanism??


They make the next lot of prisoners clear away the bodies?
 
Obsidian

M1795537OCVirn wrote: ↑

Tyce wrote: ↑

They only release the prisoners once they’ve taken off. What happens if something goes wrong with the release mechanism??


Who cares? Prisoners have been delivered. Job done.


Exactly.
Don't philosophise at me you electronic moron.
 
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Obsidian

AnneArthur wrote: ↑

Tyce wrote: ↑

They only release the prisoners once they’ve taken off. What happens if something goes wrong with the release mechanism??


They make the next lot of prisoners clear away the bodies?


Perhaps that's where the marrowbone comes from.
Don't philosophise at me you electronic moron.
 
https://www.seraglio-design.com/
M1795537OCVirn
How can Blake be a 'deserter'?
"You're not sulking, I hope?"
 
AnneArthur
As I have said before, I like this impressive proactive Gan. Such a shame we lost him. Perhaps his limiter began to malfunction long before the others knew about it, and he was in pain all the time?
 
Obsidian
Someone on Cygnus is stitching hooded cloaks.
Don't philosophise at me you electronic moron.
 
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M1795537OCVirn
Cygnus is the system's star. Alpha is its primary planet, Jenna, Blake could not have landed on the surface of Cygnus.
"You're not sulking, I hope?"
 
Obsidian

M1795537OCVirn wrote: ↑

How can Blake be a 'deserter'?


From the loony bin?
Don't philosophise at me you electronic moron.
 
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AnneArthur
So what is that rising now? A huge moon, or a very distant sun?
 
Obsidian

AnneArthur wrote: ↑

As I have said before, I like this impressive proactive Gan. Such a shame we lost him. Perhaps his limiter began to malfunction long before the others knew about it, and he was in pain all the time?


Maybe he caves in to Blake's bullishness.
Don't philosophise at me you electronic moron.
 
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M1795537OCVirn

AnneArthur wrote: ↑

As I have said before, I like this impressive proactive Gan. Such a shame we lost him. Perhaps his limiter began to malfunction long before the others knew about it, and he was in pain all the time?


Agreed. I think 'Gan' probably thought much the same. When it didn't happen, he left.
"You're not sulking, I hope?"
 
AnneArthur
No buddleia, but that plant next to Blake looks like lady's bedstraw.
 
Obsidian

M1795537OCVirn wrote: ↑

Cygnus is the system's star. Alpha is its primary planet, Jenna, Blake could not have landed on the surface of Cygnus.


I don't think TN was quite that au fait with system nomenclature.
Don't philosophise at me you electronic moron.
 
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AnneArthur
Blake, like the Minbari, never tells anyone the whole truth. And he's starting early.
 
Obsidian

AnneArthur wrote: ↑

No buddleia, but that plant next to Blake looks like lady's bedstraw.


I was wondering what it was.
Don't philosophise at me you electronic moron.
 
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AnneArthur

M1795537OCVirn wrote: ↑

Cygnus is the system's star. Alpha is its primary planet, Jenna, Blake could not have landed on the surface of Cygnus.


If there is only one habitable planet, it would not be unreasonable to refer to it by the name of the star. And in any case, Cygnus is a constellation, with many stars. Cygnus Alpha should be the brightest star, Deneb - but I think Blakes 7 fanlore decides that this can't be a planet orbiting Deneb, as it is too far from Earth.
Edited by AnneArthur on 20-01-2024 10:04
 
M1795537OCVirn

AnneArthur wrote: ↑

Blake, like the Minbari, never tells anyone the whole truth. And he's starting early.


Everyone else around him is a convicted criminal. He's innocent, so he's being careful.
"You're not sulking, I hope?"
 
Obsidian

AnneArthur wrote: ↑

Blake, like the Minbari, never tells anyone the whole truth. And he's starting early.


Very. He doesn't consider anyone else significant enough to confide in. My way or the highway. Like many a TV evangelist.
Don't philosophise at me you electronic moron.
 
https://www.seraglio-design.com/
AnneArthur

M1795537OCVirn wrote: ↑

AnneArthur wrote: ↑

Blake, like the Minbari, never tells anyone the whole truth. And he's starting early.


Everyone else around him is a convicted criminal. He's innocent, so he's being careful.


And he wants to bring the others back, so he neglects to mention the heavies.
 
AnneArthur

Obsidian wrote: ↑

AnneArthur wrote: ↑

Blake, like the Minbari, never tells anyone the whole truth. And he's starting early.


Very. He doesn't consider anyone else significant enough to confide in. My way or the highway. Like many a TV evangelist.


Although Avon is also being less than candid. I think we know that at this point he has already killed someone - as has Jenna, who asks the question.
 
Obsidian

AnneArthur wrote: ↑

M1795537OCVirn wrote: ↑

Cygnus is the system's star. Alpha is its primary planet, Jenna, Blake could not have landed on the surface of Cygnus.


If there is only one habitable planet, it would not be unreasonable to refer to it by the name of the star. And in any case, Cygnus is a constellation, with many stars. Cygnus Alpha should be the brightest star, Deneb - but I think Blakes 7 fanlore decides that this can't be a planet orbiting Deneb, as it is too far from Earth.


It would have to be a more recently discovered system as Deneb, like most bright stars, has a medieval Arabic name. This planet seems to be intentionally isolated from others.
Don't philosophise at me you electronic moron.
 
https://www.seraglio-design.com/
M1795537OCVirn
Cygnus, seen from Earth, is a constellation, not a star. I'm assuming by the time Blake & co get there the area has been further explored and the name pinned to a particular star and its system. 'Alpha' suggests there are other planets, is all I'm saying.
"You're not sulking, I hope?"
 
AnneArthur

Obsidian wrote: ↑

AnneArthur wrote: ↑

M1795537OCVirn wrote: ↑

Cygnus is the system's star. Alpha is its primary planet, Jenna, Blake could not have landed on the surface of Cygnus.


If there is only one habitable planet, it would not be unreasonable to refer to it by the name of the star. And in any case, Cygnus is a constellation, with many stars. Cygnus Alpha should be the brightest star, Deneb - but I think Blakes 7 fanlore decides that this can't be a planet orbiting Deneb, as it is too far from Earth.


It would have to be a more recently discovered system as Deneb, like most bright stars, has a medieval Arabic name. This planet seems to be intentionally isolated from others.


Yes, I was googling it. Deneb is from the Arabic word for tail - but the Arabs thought the tail of a hen, whereas to us it's a swan. It was at one point called Rosamund in German, and also the parson's nose.

This planet might be orbiting another star in Cygnus - perhaps Cygnus Alpha because the first colony in Cygnus?
 
Obsidian

AnneArthur wrote: ↑

Obsidian wrote: ↑

AnneArthur wrote: ↑

Blake, like the Minbari, never tells anyone the whole truth. And he's starting early.


Very. He doesn't consider anyone else significant enough to confide in. My way or the highway. Like many a TV evangelist.


Although Avon is also being less than candid. I think we know that at this point he has already killed someone - as has Jenna, who asks the question.


They are all testing out each other. There is quite a degree of coyness in their interactions. AFter all, who divulges everything about oneself on first being flung together with people? But Blake is assuming a position of "rightness" that he takes for granted supersedes anyone else's aims. He's even doing it right now with Vargas.
Don't philosophise at me you electronic moron.
 
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Tyce
Sorry people, I just fell asleep!! It’s been a very long horrible week. This is the first time I’ve sat down to relax - and I think my body took the relaxing way too seriously.
 
M1795537OCVirn
And there you have it. Avon says it exactly how it is. They will never have the same chance again. And they will get dragged into Blake's crusade. It's all Jenna's fault.
"You're not sulking, I hope?"
 
AnneArthur
One of the things I like about Babylon 5 is that it has several episodes exploring religion, bad and good, without succumbing to the megalomaniac-with-a-personality-cult-cliche.
 
Obsidian

AnneArthur wrote: ↑

Obsidian wrote: ↑

AnneArthur wrote: ↑

M1795537OCVirn wrote: ↑

Cygnus is the system's star. Alpha is its primary planet, Jenna, Blake could not have landed on the surface of Cygnus.


If there is only one habitable planet, it would not be unreasonable to refer to it by the name of the star. And in any case, Cygnus is a constellation, with many stars. Cygnus Alpha should be the brightest star, Deneb - but I think Blakes 7 fanlore decides that this can't be a planet orbiting Deneb, as it is too far from Earth.


It would have to be a more recently discovered system as Deneb, like most bright stars, has a medieval Arabic name. This planet seems to be intentionally isolated from others.


Yes, I was googling it. Deneb is from the Arabic word for tail - but the Arabs thought the tail of a hen, whereas to us it's a swan. It was at one point called Rosamund in German, and also the parson's nose.

This planet might be orbiting another star in Cygnus - perhaps Cygnus Alpha because the first colony in Cygnus?


Possibly. It's still isolated, otherwise, why make it a prison planet? Cygnus Beta, should it exist, is nowhere nearby. But, as we know, stars in a constellation are nowhere near each other, they only look like that in two dimensions.
Don't philosophise at me you electronic moron.
 
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