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Rewatch Downunder Saturday 28th September C13 Terminal
M1795537OCVirn

Obsidian wrote: ↑

Avon says "I'll be back." He does it again in Series D. Well before Arnie.


Grin
"You're not sulking, I hope?"
 
AnneArthur

dodgyville wrote: ↑

39m: SERVALAN

www.framecaplib.com/b7lib/images/terminal/term157.jpg


And she manages to Servalanize even this bleak interior.
 
Obsidian
PVC sellers made a motza on this episode.
Don't philosophise at me you electronic moron.
 
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M1795537OCVirn
Question: if they could do the brainwashing thing, why didn't they knock Avon out as soon as he arrived and then give him the remaining Blake dreams etc. ? Or did they???
Edited by M1795537OCVirn on 28-09-2024 10:19
"You're not sulking, I hope?"
 
Obsidian

AnneArthur wrote: ↑

dodgyville wrote: ↑

39m: SERVALAN

www.framecaplib.com/b7lib/images/terminal/term157.jpg


And she manages to Servalanize even this bleak interior.


Note the obligatory 70s' flokati rug.
Don't philosophise at me you electronic moron.
 
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dodgyville

M1795537OCVirn wrote: ↑

Question: if they cojuld do the brainwashing thing, why didn't they knock Avon out as soon as he arrived and then give him the remaining Blake dreams etc. ? Or did they???


I must admit I don't quite understand what they do to Avon in this episode? It's a bit confusing
 
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Obsidian

M1795537OCVirn wrote: ↑

Question: if they cojuld do the brainwashing thing, why didn't they knock Avon out as soon as he arrived and then give him the remaining Blake dreams etc. ? Or did they???


Probably not worth it. Servie bamboozles him adequately-enough as it is.
Don't philosophise at me you electronic moron.
 
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M1795537OCVirn

Obsidian wrote: ↑

AnneArthur wrote: ↑

dodgyville wrote: ↑

39m: SERVALAN

www.framecaplib.com/b7lib/images/terminal/term157.jpg


And she manages to Servalanize even this bleak interior.


Note the obligatory 70s' flokati rug.


But why the hanging birds' nests?
"You're not sulking, I hope?"
 
dodgyville
44m:

ZEN: I... I have failed you.
VILA: He never referred to himself before. He never once used the word "I".
ZEN: I have failed you. I am sorry. I have...
VILA: He's dying. Zen is dying.

WHY WOULD THEY DO THIS TO US 😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭
 
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M1795537OCVirn

dodgyville wrote: ↑

44m:

ZEN: I... I have failed you.
VILA: He never referred to himself before. He never once used the word "I".
ZEN: I have failed you. I am sorry. I have...
VILA: He's dying. Zen is dying.

WHY WOULD THEY DO THIS TO US 😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭



Rebels deserve all they get.
"You're not sulking, I hope?"
 
Obsidian

dodgyville wrote: ↑

M1795537OCVirn wrote: ↑

Question: if they cojuld do the brainwashing thing, why didn't they knock Avon out as soon as he arrived and then give him the remaining Blake dreams etc. ? Or did they???


I must admit I don't quite understand what they do to Avon in this episode? It's a bit confusing


They make him imagine he's seen Blake to confirm that he was right in coming to Terminal. Then they go Ha ha! He's alive. Oops, no he's not. For someone who is already stressed and strung-out it completely messes with his head. The Federation is good at head-messing.
Don't philosophise at me you electronic moron.
 
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Tyce
Avon is sacrificing himself!! The entire universe must’ve come to an end!!!!
 
Obsidian

M1795537OCVirn wrote: ↑

Obsidian wrote: ↑

AnneArthur wrote: ↑

dodgyville wrote: ↑

39m: SERVALAN

www.framecaplib.com/b7lib/images/terminal/term157.jpg


And she manages to Servalanize even this bleak interior.


Note the obligatory 70s' flokati rug.


But why the hanging birds' nests?


Servie has one on her shoulder.
Don't philosophise at me you electronic moron.
 
https://www.seraglio-design.com/
AnneArthur

M1795537OCVirn wrote: ↑

Obsidian wrote: ↑

AnneArthur wrote: ↑

dodgyville wrote: ↑

39m: SERVALAN

www.framecaplib.com/b7lib/images/terminal/term157.jpg


And she manages to Servalanize even this bleak interior.


Note the obligatory 70s' flokati rug.


But why the hanging birds' nests?


Perhaps she is training some of the native birds to kill Avon? Alfred Hitchcock style?
 
M1795537OCVirn
Again - where was she hiding that blaster?
"You're not sulking, I hope?"
 
Tyce
I do love her ‘broach’.
 
Obsidian

Tyce wrote: ↑

Avon is sacrificing himself!! The entire universe must’ve come to an end!!!!


Quite noble really, just quietly, when no-one is watching. The complete Byronic hero.
Don't philosophise at me you electronic moron.
 
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dodgyville
48m: Servalan reveals Blake was a trick created by inputting all his social media posts into ChatGPT. Avon says there's no way that would work because ChatGPT prints out bland garbage but Servalan triumphantly reveals they also drugged Avon out of his gourd so he fooled himself.

As an extra little sting, Servalan reveals the primitives on the Terminal are actually the final evolutionary state of humanity. She just kinds of throws it in as an afterthought... oh well ...
 
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M1795537OCVirn

Tyce wrote: ↑

I do love her ‘broach’.


It looks a bit dangerous. Wouldn't want to impale myself on it.
"You're not sulking, I hope?"
 
dodgyville
51m: MAXIMUM POWER

www.framecaplib.com/b7lib/images/terminal/term217.jpg
 
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AnneArthur

M1795537OCVirn wrote: ↑

Tyce wrote: ↑

I do love her ‘broach’.


It looks a bit dangerous. Wouldn't want to impale myself on it.


Perhaps to deter Avon from trying to kiss her again?
 
M1795537OCVirn
If it was a drug-induced and electronic dream, how did they give him the drugs? I still think most of it happened after he arrived on Terminal.
"You're not sulking, I hope?"
 
Obsidian

dodgyville wrote: ↑

48m: Servalan reveals Blake was a trick created by inputting all his social media posts into ChatGPT. Avon says there's no way that would work because ChatGPT prints out bland garbage but Servalan triumphantly reveals they also drugged Avon out of his gourd so he fooled himself.

As an extra little sting, Servalan reveals the primitives on the Terminal are actually the final evolutionary state of humanity. She just kinds of throws it in as an afterthought... oh well ...


I agree totally with the latter. Humans have chosen being dumb and led by morons over thinking for themselves. They have so many dumb ideas and 'cults'. They're going to be back digging up roots before too long. It won't take millions of years.
Don't philosophise at me you electronic moron.
 
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dodgyville
52m: The Liberator explodes, absolutely definitely killing Servalan and her lackeys.

The gang watches on from Terminal, Avon even smiles at the bittersweet outcome of defeating Servalan.

But there are no smiles from dodgyville, only tears

www.framecaplib.com/b7lib/images/terminal/term224.jpg
Edited by dodgyville on 28-09-2024 10:29
 
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Obsidian

Tyce wrote: ↑

I do love her ‘broach’.


I keep wanting to replicate that brooch, but can't see it closely enough to get a fix on the different layers and icicle bits.
Don't philosophise at me you electronic moron.
 
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M1795537OCVirn
Servalan has certainly learned a lot from Moloch - the replication machine to make her fleet of Liberators, and the experiments to see what happens to mankind in the future.
"You're not sulking, I hope?"
 
AnneArthur
And ends with the first of Avon's disturbing smiles.
 
Obsidian

M1795537OCVirn wrote: ↑

If it was a drug-induced and electronic dream, how did they give him the drugs? I still think most of it happened after he arrived on Terminal.


Absolutely.
Don't philosophise at me you electronic moron.
 
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Obsidian

AnneArthur wrote: ↑

And ends with the first of Avon's disturbing smiles.


It's a total PD smile. Must add that that smile made my funny bloke whoop with laughter. It's sort of a Porky the Pig "That's all, Folks!"
Edited by Obsidian on 28-09-2024 10:31
Don't philosophise at me you electronic moron.
 
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dodgyville

Obsidian wrote: ↑

AnneArthur wrote: ↑

And ends with the first of Avon's disturbing smiles.


It's a total PD smile.


PD?
 
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AnneArthur
I think I am unusual in being less moved by the destruction of the Liberator here than that of Scorpio in season 4. Don't know why - perhaps the Liberator always seemed a bit too good to be true?
 
M1795537OCVirn
If they knew (from what Zen said) that the ship was doomed, why didn't they all just teleport down before it happened, take over Servalan's base, etc etc.
"You're not sulking, I hope?"
 
Tyce

Obsidian wrote: ↑

Tyce wrote: ↑

Avon is sacrificing himself!! The entire universe must’ve come to an end!!!!


Quite noble really, just quietly, when no-one is watching. The complete Byronic hero.

More likely that he can’t deal with the fact that Servalan won and he lost, so he effectively tries to commit suicide.
 
Obsidian

dodgyville wrote: ↑

Obsidian wrote: ↑

AnneArthur wrote: ↑

And ends with the first of Avon's disturbing smiles.


It's a total PD smile.


PD?


Paul Darrow.
Don't philosophise at me you electronic moron.
 
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M1795537OCVirn

dodgyville wrote: ↑

Obsidian wrote: ↑

AnneArthur wrote: ↑

And ends with the first of Avon's disturbing smiles.


It's a total PD smile.


PD?


Paul (Disturbing) Darrow
"You're not sulking, I hope?"
 
Tyce

dodgyville wrote: ↑

51m: MAXIMUM POWER

www.framecaplib.com/b7lib/images/terminal/term217.jpg

That photo would be 200% awesome if it wasn’t for the dying Liberator behind her.
 
Obsidian

Tyce wrote: ↑

Obsidian wrote: ↑

Tyce wrote: ↑

Avon is sacrificing himself!! The entire universe must’ve come to an end!!!!


Quite noble really, just quietly, when no-one is watching. The complete Byronic hero.

More likely that he can’t deal with the fact that Servalan won and he lost, so he effectively tries to commit suicide.


He already knew he might have to sacrifice himself, that's why he didn't want the others to go down to the planet. He knew it might be trap.
Don't philosophise at me you electronic moron.
 
https://www.seraglio-design.com/
M1795537OCVirn

AnneArthur wrote: ↑

I think I am unusual in being less moved by the destruction of the Liberator here than that of Scorpio in season 4. Don't know why - perhaps the Liberator always seemed a bit too good to be true?


Doesn't move me a lot. After all, It's only a model.
"You're not sulking, I hope?"
 
Tyce

AnneArthur wrote: ↑

M1795537OCVirn wrote: ↑

Tyce wrote: ↑

I do love her ‘broach’.


It looks a bit dangerous. Wouldn't want to impale myself on it.


Perhaps to deter Avon from trying to kiss her again?

Ha ha ha. Yes.
 
M1795537OCVirn

Tyce wrote: ↑

dodgyville wrote: ↑

51m: MAXIMUM POWER

www.framecaplib.com/b7lib/images/terminal/term217.jpg

That photo would be 200% awesome if it wasn’t for the dying Liberator behind her.


She's ALWAYS awesome!
"You're not sulking, I hope?"
 
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