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Rewatch Downunder Saturday 27th July, C4 Dawn of the gods
dodgyville
8m: ORAC announces prissily he is steering them into black hole.

What's with the 1970s and prissy robots? K-9, C3PO, Orac...
 
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AnneArthur

dodgyville wrote: ↑

4m: The Liberator is off course and curving away from its intended path

Tarrant leaps instantly to a traction beam? And when people point out there's no such thing he accuses Cally's people of messing with his mind. I mean, you'd think a gravity well would be everyone's first call.

Not a massive fan of his space tunic tonight. It's more tunic than space. Just a tunic really.

framecaplib.com/b7lib/images/dawngods/dawn022.jpg


It's a bit 70s cod-medieval.
 
M1795537OCVirn

dodgyville wrote: ↑

4m: The Liberator is off course and curving away from its intended path

Tarrant leaps instantly to a traction beam? And when people point out there's no such thing he accuses Cally's people of messing with his mind. I mean, you'd think a gravity well would be everyone's first call.

Not a massive fan of his space tunic tonight. It's more tunic than space. Just a tunic really.

framecaplib.com/b7lib/images/dawngods/dawn022.jpg


He's such a name-dropper, too. 'When I was at the Space Academy'! Grrr.
"You're not sulking, I hope?"
 
Obsidian

AnneArthur wrote: ↑

Hello, late as usual, I'm afraid. Love that cake, Ms Virn! And sorry to hear about your ongoing problems, Obsidian.

is this the only James Follett episode?


No. He's responsible for Star Drive as well.
Don't philosophise at me you electronic moron.
 
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AnneArthur

Tyce wrote: ↑

AnneArthur wrote: ↑

Hello, late as usual, I'm afraid. Love that cake, Ms Virn! And sorry to hear about your ongoing problems, Obsidian.

is this the only James Follett episode?

Hi AA, How are you?


Still struggling with the bad hip, although it is getting better. Worrying about getting everything ready for my summer school next week. How are you?
 
dodgyville
11m: The Liberator falls into the black hole and gravity warps space.

I love this warping effect. I believe it's similar to what Doctor Who did with the ice warrior weapons in the 1980s. Point a camera at a reflective material that is being pinched and poked from behind.

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Obsidian

M1795537OCVirn wrote: ↑

dodgyville wrote: ↑

4m: The Liberator is off course and curving away from its intended path

Tarrant leaps instantly to a traction beam? And when people point out there's no such thing he accuses Cally's people of messing with his mind. I mean, you'd think a gravity well would be everyone's first call.

Not a massive fan of his space tunic tonight. It's more tunic than space. Just a tunic really.

framecaplib.com/b7lib/images/dawngods/dawn022.jpg


He's such a name-dropper, too. 'When I was at the Space Academy'! Grrr.


Oh, I like his and Vila's tunics. Nice silk. Lots of swash and buckle, which is typically Tarrant.
Don't philosophise at me you electronic moron.
 
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AnneArthur

Obsidian wrote: ↑

AnneArthur wrote: ↑

Hello, late as usual, I'm afraid. Love that cake, Ms Virn! And sorry to hear about your ongoing problems, Obsidian.

is this the only James Follett episode?


No. He's responsible for Star Drive as well.


Ah yes - I'd forgotten that one.
 
M1795537OCVirn
Query: was Cally grown in one of Auron's gestation units (hence the telepathy) and, if so, at what age would she be decanted and become a 'litle girl on Auron hearing fairy stories'?
"You're not sulking, I hope?"
 
Obsidian

AnneArthur wrote: ↑

Tyce wrote: ↑

AnneArthur wrote: ↑

Hello, late as usual, I'm afraid. Love that cake, Ms Virn! And sorry to hear about your ongoing problems, Obsidian.

is this the only James Follett episode?

Hi AA, How are you?


Still struggling with the bad hip, although it is getting better. Worrying about getting everything ready for my summer school next week. How are you?


The book out of the way yet?Frown
Don't philosophise at me you electronic moron.
 
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dodgyville
12m: "A thousand years here would be too short," says ORAC, the jerk.
 
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Tyce

Tyce wrote: ↑

Obsidian wrote: ↑

Tyce wrote: ↑

Obsidian wrote: ↑

Hi MsVirn and Tyce. All good with you? You SEND your son a cake, MsVirn? Does he own a cookbook?
Hi Obsidian. I hope you are well.


I'm fairly well but still stuffed over here and hand in splint slowing work. And got jury duty.Sad

Sorry to hear all that. Such a run of bad luck.

Obsidian, Can I get you to confirm that you received the text I sent you in the week. I’m assuming you are now back on your original phone number..
 
M1795537OCVirn
Find a sofa to hide behind folks - here comes the slave collecting machine.
"You're not sulking, I hope?"
 
AnneArthur

Obsidian wrote: ↑

AnneArthur wrote: ↑

Tyce wrote: ↑

AnneArthur wrote: ↑

Hello, late as usual, I'm afraid. Love that cake, Ms Virn! And sorry to hear about your ongoing problems, Obsidian.

is this the only James Follett episode?

Hi AA, How are you?


Still struggling with the bad hip, although it is getting better. Worrying about getting everything ready for my summer school next week. How are you?


The book out of the way yet?Frown


Mostly, yes! Although the boss is still making corrections (he's allowed to, I'm not . . .) and I'm still working on the index. I'm very pleased not to have that as a deadline hanging over me!
Edited by AnneArthur on 27-07-2024 09:57
 
dodgyville

M1795537OCVirn wrote: ↑

Query: was Cally grown in one of Auron's gestation units (hence the telepathy) and, if so, at what age would she be decanted and become a 'litle girl on Auron hearing fairy stories'?


She does spend more time being possessed/attacked by incorporeal beings than she does using her mental powers to help
 
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AnneArthur

M1795537OCVirn wrote: ↑

Query: was Cally grown in one of Auron's gestation units (hence the telepathy) and, if so, at what age would she be decanted and become a 'litle girl on Auron hearing fairy stories'?


It is never actually said, but I think they would basically be artificial wombs, so the children would be decanted at 9 months, when they would be normal newborn babies.
 
Obsidian

M1795537OCVirn wrote: ↑

Query: was Cally grown in one of Auron's gestation units (hence the telepathy) and, if so, at what age would she be decanted and become a 'litle girl on Auron hearing fairy stories'?


The thing about the telepathy is never tied down because 'the ancients' are said to have some of those capabilities, despite the ability being said later to be tied to cloning. So, whatever the particular writer made up. I always thought Cally was early cloning.
Don't philosophise at me you electronic moron.
 
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dodgyville
16m: The gang wonder where they are.

Avon: An unlikely possibility is that we have fallen through the black hole into the so-called negative universe of antimatter, where time and energy no longer exist.
Vila: That sounds like a way of saying we're nowhere.
Tarrant: Orac, where the hell are we?

Tarrant then proceeds to fire the Liberator's weapons wildly in any direction. Great use of energy, great use of logic, and hopefully there are no kids playing around outside minding their own business
 
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M1795537OCVirn
There's something out there...something all-powerful and evil' - is she talking about Vila?
"You're not sulking, I hope?"
 
dodgyville
19m: Vila forced to go outside in a lovely golden space suit (have we seen it before or after this episode?)

Vila is being particularly cowardly this episode so far

framecaplib.com/b7lib/images/dawngods/dawn073.jpg
 
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Tyce

AnneArthur wrote: ↑

Tyce wrote: ↑

AnneArthur wrote: ↑

Hello, late as usual, I'm afraid. Love that cake, Ms Virn! And sorry to hear about your ongoing problems, Obsidian.

is this the only James Follett episode?

Hi AA, How are you?


Still struggling with the bad hip, although it is getting better. Worrying about getting everything ready for my summer school next week. How are you?

I’m good thank you. Sorry your hip is bad, I hope it gets better quickly. Sending you relaxing thoughts for summer school.
 
AnneArthur

Obsidian wrote: ↑

M1795537OCVirn wrote: ↑

Query: was Cally grown in one of Auron's gestation units (hence the telepathy) and, if so, at what age would she be decanted and become a 'litle girl on Auron hearing fairy stories'?


The thing about the telepathy is never tied down because 'the ancients' are said to have some of those capabilities, despite the ability being said later to be tied to cloning. So, whatever the particular writer made up. I always thought Cally was early cloning.


Presumably the cloning would also involve genetic engineering to enhance telepathy? And yes, if there are older generations still alive who were born naturally, then Cally is one of the early clones.
 
Obsidian

dodgyville wrote: ↑

19m: Vila forced to go outside in a lovely golden space suit (have we seen it before or after this episode?)

Vila is being particularly cowardly this episode so far

framecaplib.com/b7lib/images/dawngods/dawn073.jpg


And slyly having a suck on the sauce bottle. I think some people projected that onto his character. Later it's understandable, but not yet.
Don't philosophise at me you electronic moron.
 
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dodgyville
Is this the only episode we see the Liberator landed?

Definitely one of the few episodes we see people outside the Liberator (ie the outside of the Liberator is a set)

I think some guards float away from a Liberator airlock in episode 2 or 4.
 
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AnneArthur

Tyce wrote: ↑

AnneArthur wrote: ↑

Tyce wrote: ↑

AnneArthur wrote: ↑

Hello, late as usual, I'm afraid. Love that cake, Ms Virn! And sorry to hear about your ongoing problems, Obsidian.

is this the only James Follett episode?

Hi AA, How are you?


Still struggling with the bad hip, although it is getting better. Worrying about getting everything ready for my summer school next week. How are you?

I’m good thank you. Sorry your hip is bad, I hope it gets better quickly. Sending you relaxing thoughts for summer school.


Thank you!
 
Obsidian

AnneArthur wrote: ↑

Obsidian wrote: ↑

M1795537OCVirn wrote: ↑

Query: was Cally grown in one of Auron's gestation units (hence the telepathy) and, if so, at what age would she be decanted and become a 'litle girl on Auron hearing fairy stories'?


The thing about the telepathy is never tied down because 'the ancients' are said to have some of those capabilities, despite the ability being said later to be tied to cloning. So, whatever the particular writer made up. I always thought Cally was early cloning.


Presumably the cloning would also involve genetic engineering to enhance telepathy? And yes, if there are older generations still alive who were born naturally, then Cally is one of the early clones.


And Franton Jr, daughter of Franton Sr, is not that much older.
Don't philosophise at me you electronic moron.
 
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dodgyville

Obsidian wrote: ↑

dodgyville wrote: ↑

19m: Vila forced to go outside in a lovely golden space suit (have we seen it before or after this episode?)

Vila is being particularly cowardly this episode so far

framecaplib.com/b7lib/images/dawngods/dawn073.jpg


And slyly having a suck on the sauce bottle. I think some people projected that onto his character. Later it's understandable, but not yet.


Do you remember when Kevin Rudd said "fair shake of the sauce bottle" and confused pretty much everyone
 
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M1795537OCVirn

dodgyville wrote: ↑

M1795537OCVirn wrote: ↑

Query: was Cally grown in one of Auron's gestation units (hence the telepathy) and, if so, at what age would she be decanted and become a 'litle girl on Auron hearing fairy stories'?


She does spend more time being possessed/attacked by incorporeal beings than she does using her mental powers to help


I think that's because the (mostly male) writers had no understanding of telepathy, or even sympathy, empathy, 'womens' intuition' or any other mode of communication that they can't see or hear. And yes, it makes me LIVID, because the character could have been so much more.
"You're not sulking, I hope?"
 
Tyce

M1795537OCVirn wrote: ↑

Query: was Cally grown in one of Auron's gestation units (hence the telepathy) and, if so, at what age would she be decanted and become a 'litle girl on Auron hearing fairy stories'?

I confess I really don’t like ‘Children of Auron’. Not that I have an issue with the episode per se it’s just that I don’t think it has any continuity with Cally‘s character, nor does it explain Cally’s character with any degree of sincerity or do her backstory with any justice.
 
Obsidian

dodgyville wrote: ↑

Is this the only episode we see the Liberator landed?

Definitely one of the few episodes we see people outside the Liberator (ie the outside of the Liberator is a set)

I think some guards float away from a Liberator airlock in episode 2 or 4.


Outside is a lot, lot better in Redemption. It still seems like a space craft. Here it's a bit daggy to say the least.
Don't philosophise at me you electronic moron.
 
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Obsidian
Tarrant seems just that little bit keen to space Vila.
Don't philosophise at me you electronic moron.
 
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M1795537OCVirn

Obsidian wrote: ↑

AnneArthur wrote: ↑

Obsidian wrote: ↑

M1795537OCVirn wrote: ↑

Query: was Cally grown in one of Auron's gestation units (hence the telepathy) and, if so, at what age would she be decanted and become a 'litle girl on Auron hearing fairy stories'?


The thing about the telepathy is never tied down because 'the ancients' are said to have some of those capabilities, despite the ability being said later to be tied to cloning. So, whatever the particular writer made up. I always thought Cally was early cloning.


Presumably the cloning would also involve genetic engineering to enhance telepathy? And yes, if there are older generations still alive who were born naturally, then Cally is one of the early clones.


And Franton Jr, daughter of Franton Sr, is not that much older.


Is she telepathic?
"You're not sulking, I hope?"
 
AnneArthur

Tyce wrote: ↑

M1795537OCVirn wrote: ↑

Query: was Cally grown in one of Auron's gestation units (hence the telepathy) and, if so, at what age would she be decanted and become a 'litle girl on Auron hearing fairy stories'?

I confess I really don’t like ‘Children of Auron’. Not that I have an issue with the episode per se it’s just that I don’t think it has any continuity with Cally‘s character, nor does it explain Cally’s character with any degree of sincerity or do her backstory with any justice.


I'm not keen on it either, and for much the same reasons - also I find quite a lot of Crandor ridiculous - the 'slave catcher' machine, for example.
 
Obsidian

dodgyville wrote: ↑

Obsidian wrote: ↑

dodgyville wrote: ↑

19m: Vila forced to go outside in a lovely golden space suit (have we seen it before or after this episode?)

Vila is being particularly cowardly this episode so far

framecaplib.com/b7lib/images/dawngods/dawn073.jpg


And slyly having a suck on the sauce bottle. I think some people projected that onto his character. Later it's understandable, but not yet.


Do you remember when Kevin Rudd said "fair shake of the sauce bottle" and confused pretty much everyone


That's why I use it. It was one of the stupidest bits of made-up idiom that I've ever heard. Nothing like repeating it.Smile
Don't philosophise at me you electronic moron.
 
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dodgyville
I will give this episode credit for bringing the strange. This universe across the black hole threshold is a bit mysterious. Orac is being very non-human. Cally is pleasantly ethereally telepathic. It's a good vibe.
 
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dodgyville

Obsidian wrote: ↑

Tarrant seems just that little bit keen to space Vila.


After seven days straight playing space monopoly anyone would be ready to space anyone else
 
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dodgyville
28m: This guy shows up

framecaplib.com/b7lib/images/dawngods/dawn110.jpg
 
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Obsidian

M1795537OCVirn wrote: ↑

Obsidian wrote: ↑

AnneArthur wrote: ↑

Obsidian wrote: ↑

M1795537OCVirn wrote: ↑

Query: was Cally grown in one of Auron's gestation units (hence the telepathy) and, if so, at what age would she be decanted and become a 'litle girl on Auron hearing fairy stories'?


The thing about the telepathy is never tied down because 'the ancients' are said to have some of those capabilities, despite the ability being said later to be tied to cloning. So, whatever the particular writer made up. I always thought Cally was early cloning.


Presumably the cloning would also involve genetic engineering to enhance telepathy? And yes, if there are older generations still alive who were born naturally, then Cally is one of the early clones.


And Franton Jr, daughter of Franton Sr, is not that much older.


Is she telepathic?


She's evidently not a clone but was born while dad was developing the program, but she IS vulnerable to the disease. Another earlydevelopment?
Don't philosophise at me you electronic moron.
 
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M1795537OCVirn
Scientists have no idea what happens to black holes - some think they will eventually blow up (presumably from the energy overload?) others think they may just evaporate, sort of swallow themelves, as well as everything else. Definitely worth studying. I'm with Orac on that.
"You're not sulking, I hope?"
 
Obsidian

dodgyville wrote: ↑

28m: This guy shows up

framecaplib.com/b7lib/images/dawngods/dawn110.jpg


I hope Sam Dastor was well paid for playing this daft role.
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