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 Rewatch Downunder Saturday 17th June B12 The Keeper
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| AnneArthur |
Posted on 17-06-2023 09:55
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Is Travis already working with the Andromedans at this point? |
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| Obsidian |
Posted on 17-06-2023 09:55
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This is another fun episode - but I gather there are a lot of people who don't like it? Servalan's in it - what's not to like? I don't know. I've just come across mentions of it as self-evidently a bad episode, like Animals or Voice from the Past. Nah. It's very tightly plotted and played. Everyone is now on edge. Denouement is evident in it's every pore. Maybe people are put off by the dress-ups. Yes, I think it's the dress-ups they don't like. Then "they" are shallow and influenced by superficialities so ignore them. Don't philosophise at me you electronic moron.
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| M1795537OCVirn |
Posted on 17-06-2023 09:57
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Servalan reclining in a white fur coat, eating grapes - how typical. From her point of view, why not? Real grapes are probably something of a luxury in space. That cultured algae fruit just isn't the same. "You're not sulking, I hope?"
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| M1795537OCVirn |
Posted on 17-06-2023 09:58
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Travis must have been a bt disappoiinted to know there was a royal brother as well.
"You're not sulking, I hope?"
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| Obsidian |
Posted on 17-06-2023 09:59
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Is Travis already working with the Andromedans at this point? Yes. He tries talking Servalan into coming on side with his "ambition", appealing to hers, but, apart from getting her ship, he shoots through when he gets no more. I think it's probably an either/or thing. Don't philosophise at me you electronic moron.
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| AnneArthur |
Posted on 17-06-2023 09:59
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Travis must have been a bt disappoiinted to know there was a royal brother as well. These royal personages just keep on multiplying. |
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| Obsidian |
Posted on 17-06-2023 10:01
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Servalan reclining in a white fur coat, eating grapes - how typical. From her point of view, why not? Real grapes are probably something of a luxury in space. That cultured algae fruit just isn't the same. Especially when we see that, like the north of England, there is no rain on some planets and too much on others and, hence, no fruit. She could take up eating prickly pear. Don't philosophise at me you electronic moron.
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| AnneArthur |
Posted on 17-06-2023 10:01
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Is Travis already working with the Andromedans at this point? Yes. He tries talking Servalan into coming on side with his "ambition", appealing to hers, but, apart from getting her ship, he shoots through when he gets no more. I think it's probably an either/or thing. That makes sense, but if he is allied with the Andromedans, surely that means that he knows where Star One is? Or did they get in touch with him somehow? |
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| Obsidian |
Posted on 17-06-2023 10:01
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Travis must have been a bt disappoiinted to know there was a royal brother as well. These royal personages just keep on multiplying. So unlike our own Royal Family. Don't philosophise at me you electronic moron.
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| M1795537OCVirn |
Posted on 17-06-2023 10:01
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Travis must have been a bt disappoiinted to know there was a royal brother as well. These royal personages just keep on multiplying. And that's what the king has in mind now he's met Jenna. "You're not sulking, I hope?"
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| AnneArthur |
Posted on 17-06-2023 10:02
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Servalan reclining in a white fur coat, eating grapes - how typical. From her point of view, why not? Real grapes are probably something of a luxury in space. That cultured algae fruit just isn't the same. Especially when we see that, like the north of England, there is no rain on some planets and too much on others and, hence, no fruit. She could take up eating prickly pear. Our local greengrocer now sells prickly pear. But I think it's imported. |
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| Obsidian |
Posted on 17-06-2023 10:03
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Is Travis already working with the Andromedans at this point? Yes. He tries talking Servalan into coming on side with his "ambition", appealing to hers, but, apart from getting her ship, he shoots through when he gets no more. I think it's probably an either/or thing. That makes sense, but if he is allied with the Andromedans, surely that means that he knows where Star One is? Or did they get in touch with him somehow? He steals the brain print before our heroes get here. Don't philosophise at me you electronic moron.
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| M1795537OCVirn |
Posted on 17-06-2023 10:03
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Is Travis already working with the Andromedans at this point? Yes. He tries talking Servalan into coming on side with his "ambition", appealing to hers, but, apart from getting her ship, he shoots through when he gets no more. I think it's probably an either/or thing. That makes sense, but if he is allied with the Andromedans, surely that means that he knows where Star One is? Or did they get in touch with him somehow? Do you think Servalan suspects he has allies? "You're not sulking, I hope?"
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| Obsidian |
Posted on 17-06-2023 10:04
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Servalan reclining in a white fur coat, eating grapes - how typical. From her point of view, why not? Real grapes are probably something of a luxury in space. That cultured algae fruit just isn't the same. Especially when we see that, like the north of England, there is no rain on some planets and too much on others and, hence, no fruit. She could take up eating prickly pear. Our local greengrocer now sells prickly pear. But I think it's imported. Probably. If you get no rain soon you could start... It's delicious. Don't philosophise at me you electronic moron.
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| Obsidian |
Posted on 17-06-2023 10:04
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Love Jenna's eyeliner in this.
Don't philosophise at me you electronic moron.
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| AnneArthur |
Posted on 17-06-2023 10:04
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Is Travis already working with the Andromedans at this point? Yes. He tries talking Servalan into coming on side with his "ambition", appealing to hers, but, apart from getting her ship, he shoots through when he gets no more. I think it's probably an either/or thing. That makes sense, but if he is allied with the Andromedans, surely that means that he knows where Star One is? Or did they get in touch with him somehow? He steals the brain print before our heroes get here. Of course. Sorry to be so obtuse. |
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| M1795537OCVirn |
Posted on 17-06-2023 10:05
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Servalan reclining in a white fur coat, eating grapes - how typical. From her point of view, why not? Real grapes are probably something of a luxury in space. That cultured algae fruit just isn't the same. Especially when we see that, like the north of England, there is no rain on some planets and too much on others and, hence, no fruit. She could take up eating prickly pear. Our local greengrocer now sells prickly pear. But I think it's imported. Good grief! Think of all those food miles! "You're not sulking, I hope?"
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| AnneArthur |
Posted on 17-06-2023 10:06
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Is Travis already working with the Andromedans at this point? Yes. He tries talking Servalan into coming on side with his "ambition", appealing to hers, but, apart from getting her ship, he shoots through when he gets no more. I think it's probably an either/or thing. That makes sense, but if he is allied with the Andromedans, surely that means that he knows where Star One is? Or did they get in touch with him somehow? Do you think Servalan suspects he has allies? I think this might be the one thing she doesn't foresee. |
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| Obsidian |
Posted on 17-06-2023 10:06
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Servalan reclining in a white fur coat, eating grapes - how typical. From her point of view, why not? Real grapes are probably something of a luxury in space. That cultured algae fruit just isn't the same. Especially when we see that, like the north of England, there is no rain on some planets and too much on others and, hence, no fruit. She could take up eating prickly pear. Our local greengrocer now sells prickly pear. But I think it's imported. Good grief! Think of all those food miles! Don't philosophise at me you electronic moron.
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| Obsidian |
Posted on 17-06-2023 10:07
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Is Travis already working with the Andromedans at this point? Yes. He tries talking Servalan into coming on side with his "ambition", appealing to hers, but, apart from getting her ship, he shoots through when he gets no more. I think it's probably an either/or thing. That makes sense, but if he is allied with the Andromedans, surely that means that he knows where Star One is? Or did they get in touch with him somehow? Do you think Servalan suspects he has allies? I think this might be the one thing she doesn't foresee. Have to agree. It would seem it hasn't occurred to her that Travis might have got fed up with being a fall guy for her and has decided to put an end to everything. Don't philosophise at me you electronic moron.
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| M1795537OCVirn |
Posted on 17-06-2023 10:09
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A lot of people are making wrong assumptions in this episode.
"You're not sulking, I hope?"
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| Obsidian |
Posted on 17-06-2023 10:10
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The real king yelling is a very effective emotional thing.
Don't philosophise at me you electronic moron.
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| M1795537OCVirn |
Posted on 17-06-2023 10:10
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Is Travis already working with the Andromedans at this point? Yes. He tries talking Servalan into coming on side with his "ambition", appealing to hers, but, apart from getting her ship, he shoots through when he gets no more. I think it's probably an either/or thing. That makes sense, but if he is allied with the Andromedans, surely that means that he knows where Star One is? Or did they get in touch with him somehow? Do you think Servalan suspects he has allies? I think this might be the one thing she doesn't foresee. Have to agree. It would seem it hasn't occurred to her that Travis might have got fed up with being a fall guy for her and has decided to put an end to everything. Maybe her disrespecting his offer was the final straw. "You're not sulking, I hope?"
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| AnneArthur |
Posted on 17-06-2023 10:10
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Is Travis already working with the Andromedans at this point? Yes. He tries talking Servalan into coming on side with his "ambition", appealing to hers, but, apart from getting her ship, he shoots through when he gets no more. I think it's probably an either/or thing. That makes sense, but if he is allied with the Andromedans, surely that means that he knows where Star One is? Or did they get in touch with him somehow? Do you think Servalan suspects he has allies? I think this might be the one thing she doesn't foresee. Have to agree. It would seem it hasn't occurred to her that Travis might have got fed up with being a fall guy for her and has decided to put an end to everything. I'm sure she sees that he's fed up, but she wouldn't think he would go that far. But perhaps her presence here suggests that she suspects him of something. |
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| Obsidian |
Posted on 17-06-2023 10:11
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A lot of people are making wrong assumptions in this episode. You mean the menfolk? Don't philosophise at me you electronic moron.
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| AnneArthur |
Posted on 17-06-2023 10:11
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Is Travis already working with the Andromedans at this point? Yes. He tries talking Servalan into coming on side with his "ambition", appealing to hers, but, apart from getting her ship, he shoots through when he gets no more. I think it's probably an either/or thing. That makes sense, but if he is allied with the Andromedans, surely that means that he knows where Star One is? Or did they get in touch with him somehow? Do you think Servalan suspects he has allies? I think this might be the one thing she doesn't foresee. Have to agree. It would seem it hasn't occurred to her that Travis might have got fed up with being a fall guy for her and has decided to put an end to everything. Maybe her disrespecting his offer was the final straw. Maybe. |
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| M1795537OCVirn |
Posted on 17-06-2023 10:12
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Quote I'm sure she sees that he's fed up, but she wouldn't think he would go that far. But perhaps her presence here suggests that she suspects him of something. She'd be there to use him, especially if she suspected anything. "You're not sulking, I hope?"
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| Obsidian |
Posted on 17-06-2023 10:13
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Yes. He tries talking Servalan into coming on side with his "ambition", appealing to hers, but, apart from getting her ship, he shoots through when he gets no more. I think it's probably an either/or thing. That makes sense, but if he is allied with the Andromedans, surely that means that he knows where Star One is? Or did they get in touch with him somehow? Do you think Servalan suspects he has allies?[/quote] I think this might be the one thing she doesn't foresee.[/quote] Have to agree. It would seem it hasn't occurred to her that Travis might have got fed up with being a fall guy for her and has decided to put an end to everything.[/quote] I'm sure she sees that he's fed up, but she wouldn't think he would go that far. But perhaps her presence here suggests that she suspects him of something.[/quote] Exactamente. She suspects because she knows that he has the info about Goth also, but she hasn't realised the lengths he might go to. The biting the hand that feeds. Dogs do it in the end if mistreated. Who knows what I just cropped? Edited by Obsidian on 17-06-2023 10:15 Don't philosophise at me you electronic moron.
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| AnneArthur |
Posted on 17-06-2023 10:15
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Yes. He tries talking Servalan into coming on side with his "ambition", appealing to hers, but, apart from getting her ship, he shoots through when he gets no more. I think it's probably an either/or thing. That makes sense, but if he is allied with the Andromedans, surely that means that he knows where Star One is? Or did they get in touch with him somehow? Do you think Servalan suspects he has allies? I think this might be the one thing she doesn't foresee.[/quote] Have to agree. It would seem it hasn't occurred to her that Travis might have got fed up with being a fall guy for her and has decided to put an end to everything.[/quote] I'm sure she sees that he's fed up, but she wouldn't think he would go that far. But perhaps her presence here suggests that she suspects him of something.[/quote] Exactamente. She suspects because she knows that he has the info about Goth also, but she hasn't realised the lengths he might go to. The biting the hand that feeds. Dogs do it in the end if mistreated.[/quote] Travis the Rottweiler . . . |
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| Obsidian |
Posted on 17-06-2023 10:15
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Yes. He tries talking Servalan into coming on side with his "ambition", appealing to hers, but, apart from getting her ship, he shoots through when he gets no more. I think it's probably an either/or thing. That makes sense, but if he is allied with the Andromedans, surely that means that he knows where Star One is? Or did they get in touch with him somehow? Do you think Servalan suspects he has allies? I think this might be the one thing she doesn't foresee. Have to agree. It would seem it hasn't occurred to her that Travis might have got fed up with being a fall guy for her and has decided to put an end to everything.[/quote] I'm sure she sees that he's fed up, but she wouldn't think he would go that far. But perhaps her presence here suggests that she suspects him of something.[/quote] Exactamente. She suspects because she knows that he has the info about Goth also, but she hasn't realised the lengths he might go to. The biting the hand that feeds. Dogs do it in the end if mistreated.[/quote] Travis the Rottweiler . . .[/quote]  A very apt analogy. Don't philosophise at me you electronic moron.
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| AnneArthur |
Posted on 17-06-2023 10:16
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That didn't work. How do you quote only the last bit of a thread. |
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| AnneArthur |
Posted on 17-06-2023 10:17
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If only Blake and Vila had been nicer to the old Sharl . . . |
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| Obsidian |
Posted on 17-06-2023 10:17
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That didn't work. How do you quote only the last bit of a thread. What I was trying to do and unsuccessfully chopping the wrong "quote" bit.
Don't philosophise at me you electronic moron.
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| Obsidian |
Posted on 17-06-2023 10:19
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If only Blake and Vila had been nicer to the old Sharl . . . Agreed. Though Blake has only seen a bit of what's taking place upstairs. His vaunted caring drops away in the face of HIS ambition. Interesting tents that have dungeons... Don't philosophise at me you electronic moron.
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| M1795537OCVirn |
Posted on 17-06-2023 10:20
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There's a lot nobody told us going on underground in Gloucestershire... Didn't the Federation know about the Andromedans and erect the minefield to protect themselves from them? "You're not sulking, I hope?"
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| Obsidian |
Posted on 17-06-2023 10:20
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Tara ALWAYS reminds me of Vivienne Westwood.
Don't philosophise at me you electronic moron.
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| AnneArthur |
Posted on 17-06-2023 10:21
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If only Blake and Vila had been nicer to the old Sharl . . . Agreed. Though Blake has only seen a bit of what's taking place upstairs. His vaunted caring drops away in the face of HIS ambition. Interesting tents that have dungeons... We take the tent from the nomadic phase, then the rather anachronistic dungeon from the settled phase . . . It;s all good fun. Edited by AnneArthur on 17-06-2023 10:23 |
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| AnneArthur |
Posted on 17-06-2023 10:22
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There's a lot nobody told us going on underground in Gloucestershire... Didn't the Federation know about the Andromedans and erect the minefield to protect themselves from them? Yes, so Servalan must have known of a threat. |
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| Obsidian |
Posted on 17-06-2023 10:22
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There's a lot nobody told us going on underground in Gloucestershire... Didn't the Federation know about the Andromedans and erect the minefield to protect themselves from them? Clearly one of those decisions lost in the mists of time. No Hansard in Federation times. Don't philosophise at me you electronic moron.
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| M1795537OCVirn |
Posted on 17-06-2023 10:22
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If only Blake and Vila had been nicer to the old Sharl . . . Agreed. Though Blake has only seen a bit of what's taking place upstairs. His vaunted caring drops away in the face of HIS ambition. Interesting tents that have dungeons... Ha ha ha! But they just talk about 'down below' and they're already in caves, so it's just another, lower cave, isn't it? "You're not sulking, I hope?"
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