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AnneArthur
Kayn hasn't actually examined Gan when he calls him a psychopath. I think he's just going on what the Federation have said about the sort of people they give limiters to - and they might well have just been rounding up the usual suspects. He attacked and killed a Federation guard unarmed, ergo he must be a psychopath.
 
Obsidian

M1795537OCVirn wrote: ↑

Your threats don't bother me in the slightest....what - my HANDS?? Blake's sheer nastiness stands out compared to Cally's compassion.


He knows when to be ruthless.
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AnneArthur
Avon's saving grace is that he is consistently a better man than he would like to think he is.
 
M1795537OCVirn
Pilot's already left the building. Now he'll never know how the station was destroyed.
"You're not sulking, I hope?"
 
Obsidian

AnneArthur wrote: ↑

Kayn hasn't actually examined Gan when he calls him a psychopath. I think he's just going on what the Federation have said about the sort of people they give limiters to - and they might well have just been rounding up the usual suspects. He attacked and killed a Federation guard unarmed, ergo he must be a psychopath.


Seems a fair assessment on Kayn's part. After all, presumably a neurosurgeon had to insert the limiter in the first place. I'm not for assuming all these people were unjustly accused of their crimes, even if it is part of Federation practice to get rid of annoyances.
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M1795537OCVirn

AnneArthur wrote: ↑

Avon's saving grace is that he is consistently a better man than he would like to think he is.


It's the being consistent that counts. You never know where you are with Blake, except that his Cause matters more than anything else, including himself. He's a dangerous person to be around. Whereas if Avon was going to kill you, he'd say so.
"You're not sulking, I hope?"
 
Obsidian

AnneArthur wrote: ↑

Avon's saving grace is that he is consistently a better man than he would like to think he is.


Of course. He's just pretending to be bad to the bone.
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AnneArthur

Obsidian wrote: ↑

AnneArthur wrote: ↑

Kayn hasn't actually examined Gan when he calls him a psychopath. I think he's just going on what the Federation have said about the sort of people they give limiters to - and they might well have just been rounding up the usual suspects. He attacked and killed a Federation guard unarmed, ergo he must be a psychopath.


Seems a fair assessment on Kayn's part. After all, presumably a neurosurgeon had to insert the limiter in the first place. I'm not for assuming all these people were unjustly accused of their crimes, even if it is part of Federation practice to get rid of annoyances.


I'm just looking for a loophole, really - I don't like the 'Gan as psychopath' story, probably just because I rather like Gan and would like him to be the gentle giant he presents as - and I'm playing around with alternative possibilities.
 
Obsidian

M1795537OCVirn wrote: ↑

AnneArthur wrote: ↑

Avon's saving grace is that he is consistently a better man than he would like to think he is.


It's the being consistent that counts. You never know where you are with Blake, except that his Cause matters more than anything else, including himself. He's a dangerous person to be around. Whereas if Avon was going to kill you, he'd say so.


Agreed. Also, going back to Avon decking Sara on the Destiny ship and saying that he rather enjoyed it, just the other day, watching Foyle's War for the billionth time, DCS Foyle says exactly the same thing after he decks a crim. People see one as good and the other as bad. Why? What's the difference?
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Obsidian

AnneArthur wrote: ↑

Obsidian wrote: ↑

AnneArthur wrote: ↑

Kayn hasn't actually examined Gan when he calls him a psychopath. I think he's just going on what the Federation have said about the sort of people they give limiters to - and they might well have just been rounding up the usual suspects. He attacked and killed a Federation guard unarmed, ergo he must be a psychopath.


Seems a fair assessment on Kayn's part. After all, presumably a neurosurgeon had to insert the limiter in the first place. I'm not for assuming all these people were unjustly accused of their crimes, even if it is part of Federation practice to get rid of annoyances.


I'm just looking for a loophole, really - I don't like the 'Gan as psychopath' story, probably just because I rather like Gan and would like him to be the gentle giant he presents as - and I'm playing around with alternative possibilities.


I think he's the sneaky manipulative person lying on that bed doing a good con job on Cally.
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AnneArthur

Obsidian wrote: ↑

AnneArthur wrote: ↑

Avon's saving grace is that he is consistently a better man than he would like to think he is.


Of course. He's just pretending to be bad to the bone.


I don't think he's pretending. I think he would really like to think of himself as cold, ruthless and entirely self-interested - but he isn't.
 
Obsidian

M1795537OCVirn wrote: ↑

Pilot's already left the building. Now he'll never know how the station was destroyed.


Well, I did let it slip. And now he's found it up on YouTube again... We know that won't last though. He does a good job of commenting without actually watching.
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M1795537OCVirn

Obsidian wrote: ↑

AnneArthur wrote: ↑

Obsidian wrote: ↑

AnneArthur wrote: ↑

Kayn hasn't actually examined Gan when he calls him a psychopath. I think he's just going on what the Federation have said about the sort of people they give limiters to - and they might well have just been rounding up the usual suspects. He attacked and killed a Federation guard unarmed, ergo he must be a psychopath.


Seems a fair assessment on Kayn's part. After all, presumably a neurosurgeon had to insert the limiter in the first place. I'm not for assuming all these people were unjustly accused of their crimes, even if it is part of Federation practice to get rid of annoyances.


I'm just looking for a loophole, really - I don't like the 'Gan as psychopath' story, probably just because I rather like Gan and would like him to be the gentle giant he presents as - and I'm playing around with alternative possibilities.


I think he's the sneaky manipulative person lying on that bed doing a good con job on Cally.


I think of him more like a 'berserker' - push him hard enough and he goes into an inbuilt 'killing mode' without having to think.
"You're not sulking, I hope?"
 
Obsidian

AnneArthur wrote: ↑

Obsidian wrote: ↑

AnneArthur wrote: ↑

Avon's saving grace is that he is consistently a better man than he would like to think he is.


Of course. He's just pretending to be bad to the bone.


I don't think he's pretending. I think he would really like to think of himself as cold, ruthless and entirely self-interested - but he isn't.


If we go right back to when they first arrive on the Liberator he's actually quite timid when they try out the controls and does the displacement behaviour laugh. The supposedly cold, ruthless character is entirely protective. A carapace to protect his more delicate innards.
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AnneArthur
Anyway, when do the clocks go forward/back? Are we on for the same time next week?
 
Obsidian

M1795537OCVirn wrote: ↑

Obsidian wrote: ↑

AnneArthur wrote: ↑

Obsidian wrote: ↑

AnneArthur wrote: ↑

Kayn hasn't actually examined Gan when he calls him a psychopath. I think he's just going on what the Federation have said about the sort of people they give limiters to - and they might well have just been rounding up the usual suspects. He attacked and killed a Federation guard unarmed, ergo he must be a psychopath.


Seems a fair assessment on Kayn's part. After all, presumably a neurosurgeon had to insert the limiter in the first place. I'm not for assuming all these people were unjustly accused of their crimes, even if it is part of Federation practice to get rid of annoyances.


I'm just looking for a loophole, really - I don't like the 'Gan as psychopath' story, probably just because I rather like Gan and would like him to be the gentle giant he presents as - and I'm playing around with alternative possibilities.


I think he's the sneaky manipulative person lying on that bed doing a good con job on Cally.


I think of him more like a 'berserker' - push him hard enough and he goes into an inbuilt 'killing mode' without having to think.


That's the sort of character we were talking about earlier where he could have been quite a useful weapon, but probably too unpredictable. There is actually a term for it: Intermittent Explosive Disorder.
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M1795537OCVirn

AnneArthur wrote: ↑

Anyway, when do the clocks go forward/back? Are we on for the same time next week?


No idea. The USA change this weekend. I'm expecting the Aussies to follow next week ( or perhaps the one after) with us usually the last weekend of March. Or something like that.
"You're not sulking, I hope?"
 
Obsidian

M1795537OCVirn wrote: ↑

AnneArthur wrote: ↑

Anyway, when do the clocks go forward/back? Are we on for the same time next week?


No idea. The USA change this weekend. I'm expecting the Aussies to follow next week ( or perhaps the one after) with us usually the last weekend of March. Or something like that.


We used to do the last week of March but D.O. says he thinks it's the start of April. No matter; the cats know that the seasons have changed.
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M1795537OCVirn
Intermittent Explosive Disorder sounds painful. Wouldn't one's first episode be terminal?
"You're not sulking, I hope?"
 
Obsidian
Times: we change on 7 April.
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Obsidian

M1795537OCVirn wrote: ↑

Intermittent Explosive Disorder sounds painful. Wouldn't one's first episode be terminal?


Generally for those around one who might get mown down in the process.
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M1795537OCVirn
I looked it up. UK Summer Time starts 31st March (isn't that Easter as well?), I think the Aussies wait until 7th April. Please can someone confirm that before we all get too confused?
"You're not sulking, I hope?"
 
Obsidian
Anyway, after all that with Gan, he should have been given a more "I'm fixed" active role.
Edited by Obsidian on 09-03-2024 10:46
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Obsidian

M1795537OCVirn wrote: ↑

I looked it up. UK Summer Time starts 31st March (isn't that Easter as well?), I think the Aussies wait until 7th April. Please can someone confirm that before we all get too confused?


Yes and yes, 7th CONFIRMED above.
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AnneArthur

Obsidian wrote: ↑

M1795537OCVirn wrote: ↑

Intermittent Explosive Disorder sounds painful. Wouldn't one's first episode be terminal?


Generally for those around one who might get mown down in the process.


Which would be to the Federation's advantage, if they chose to create it artificially.
 
M1795537OCVirn

Obsidian wrote: ↑

Times: we change on 7 April.


OK, thanks. So your 8.30 pm becomes 7.30pm?
"You're not sulking, I hope?"
 
M1795537OCVirn

AnneArthur wrote: ↑

Obsidian wrote: ↑

M1795537OCVirn wrote: ↑

Intermittent Explosive Disorder sounds painful. Wouldn't one's first episode be terminal?


Generally for those around one who might get mown down in the process.


Which would be to the Federation's advantage, if they chose to create it artificially.


Mwah ha ha
"You're not sulking, I hope?"
 
M1795537OCVirn
Incidentally, Anne, you might be interested to see the final post in last Tuesday's UK rewatch of Breakdown. About jokey endings.
"You're not sulking, I hope?"
 
Obsidian

AnneArthur wrote: ↑

Obsidian wrote: ↑

M1795537OCVirn wrote: ↑

Intermittent Explosive Disorder sounds painful. Wouldn't one's first episode be terminal?


Generally for those around one who might get mown down in the process.


Which would be to the Federation's advantage, if they chose to create it artificially.


Sorry, still don't see it. Just a bit too convoluted. They've got the Crimmos, after all, and they are just plain whacko, however you wish to define it.
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M1795537OCVirn

Obsidian wrote: ↑

AnneArthur wrote: ↑

Obsidian wrote: ↑

M1795537OCVirn wrote: ↑

Intermittent Explosive Disorder sounds painful. Wouldn't one's first episode be terminal?


Generally for those around one who might get mown down in the process.


Which would be to the Federation's advantage, if they chose to create it artificially.


Sorry, still don't see it. Just a bit too convoluted. They've got the Crimmos, after all, and they are just plain whacko, however you wish to define it.


We LIKE convoluted!
"You're not sulking, I hope?"
 
Obsidian

M1795537OCVirn wrote: ↑

Obsidian wrote: ↑

Times: we change on 7 April.


OK, thanks. So your 8.30 pm becomes 7.30pm?


Presumably, but way too far in the future to be of concern right now. All I can see at present is the end of this week and what needs to be done beforehand.
Don't philosophise at me you electronic moron.
 
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Obsidian

M1795537OCVirn wrote: ↑

Obsidian wrote: ↑

AnneArthur wrote: ↑

Obsidian wrote: ↑

M1795537OCVirn wrote: ↑

Intermittent Explosive Disorder sounds painful. Wouldn't one's first episode be terminal?


Generally for those around one who might get mown down in the process.


Which would be to the Federation's advantage, if they chose to create it artificially.


Sorry, still don't see it. Just a bit too convoluted. They've got the Crimmos, after all, and they are just plain whacko, however you wish to define it.


We LIKE convoluted!


It's a bit like the Ogres of Middle Earth. I think we'd learn more about them if it were a real Federation thing. There! Run with that, then.
Don't philosophise at me you electronic moron.
 
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M1795537OCVirn

Obsidian wrote: ↑

M1795537OCVirn wrote: ↑

Obsidian wrote: ↑

Times: we change on 7 April.


OK, thanks. So your 8.30 pm becomes 7.30pm?


Presumably, but way too far in the future to be of concern right now. All I can see at present is the end of this week and what needs to be done beforehand.


OK, get cracking then. Hope it all goes to plan. Thanks for all your comments, informative as always. See you next time. (And I'm probably going to win the WORD again, barring one of your last-minute interventions).
"You're not sulking, I hope?"
 
Obsidian

M1795537OCVirn wrote: ↑

Obsidian wrote: ↑

M1795537OCVirn wrote: ↑

Obsidian wrote: ↑

Times: we change on 7 April.


OK, thanks. So your 8.30 pm becomes 7.30pm?


Presumably, but way too far in the future to be of concern right now. All I can see at present is the end of this week and what needs to be done beforehand.


OK, get cracking then. Hope it all goes to plan. Thanks for all your comments, informative as always. See you next tiome. (And I'm probably going to win the WORD again, barring one of your last-minute interventions).


So sorry I haven't been doing it. I do want to but end up going emails, glue, solder, plate, string, phone, text, Instagram REPEAT. Blah!
Don't philosophise at me you electronic moron.
 
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Obsidian
Take care all! Hopefully see you both here again next week, same time, same Bat Channel, as the saying goes. And with that gad-about Tyce. Have a great week!
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M1795537OCVirn

Obsidian wrote: ↑

M1795537OCVirn wrote: ↑

Obsidian wrote: ↑

M1795537OCVirn wrote: ↑

Obsidian wrote: ↑

Times: we change on 7 April.


OK, thanks. So your 8.30 pm becomes 7.30pm?


Presumably, but way too far in the future to be of concern right now. All I can see at present is the end of this week and what needs to be done beforehand.


OK, get cracking then. Hope it all goes to plan. Thanks for all your comments, informative as always. See you next tiome. (And I'm probably going to win the WORD again, barring one of your last-minute interventions).


So sorry I haven't been doing it. I do want to but end up going emails, glue, solder, plate, string, phone, text, Instagram REPEAT. Blah!


Not a problem. I like winning. I'm just impressed how often you guess what's in my mind!
"You're not sulking, I hope?"
 
AnneArthur

M1795537OCVirn wrote: ↑

Incidentally, Anne, you might be interested to see the final post in last Tuesday's UK rewatch of Breakdown. About jokey endings.


Aha! Will look at it now.
 
AnneArthur

Obsidian wrote: ↑

M1795537OCVirn wrote: ↑

Obsidian wrote: ↑

AnneArthur wrote: ↑

Obsidian wrote: ↑

M1795537OCVirn wrote: ↑

Intermittent Explosive Disorder sounds painful. Wouldn't one's first episode be terminal?


Generally for those around one who might get mown down in the process.


Which would be to the Federation's advantage, if they chose to create it artificially.


Sorry, still don't see it. Just a bit too convoluted. They've got the Crimmos, after all, and they are just plain whacko, however you wish to define it.


We LIKE convoluted!


It's a bit like the Ogres of Middle Earth. I think we'd learn more about them if it were a real Federation thing. There! Run with that, then.


I think one of the fun things about Blakes 7 is that all sorts of things are teased, hinted at, never mentioned again - from the Blake clone downwards. It leaves plenty of room for the viewer's imagination!
 
AnneArthur
Anyway, see you all next week, same time, for a planet named after a chocolate, and another storyline that comes out of nowhere and goes nowhere. Have a good week!
 
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