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| Obsidian |
Posted on 21-10-2023 09:51
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They've now crashed, and again it seems to be the women trying to do something practical. Well, by this time, two of the crew are feeling fairly distressed. They know what they've got now (Scorpio) is a comedown from the Liberator and they're also aware that they've lost a lot. That's why Avon's making daft decisions and Vila is pretending he's drunk. These boys badly need an analyst, not an antagonist, which is what Tarrant is. The women know when to hold their peace. Yes, but this assumes that Soolin and Dayna don't have traumatic pasts, which they do. Nobody's undamaged here. But their damaged pasts haven't accumulated in quite the same way and aren't directly linked to this particular enterprise, whereas Avon's and Vila's are. I'm not assuming a thing. Avon and Vila are suffering from Complex Post-Traumatic Syndrome. Don't philosophise at me you electronic moron.
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| Obsidian |
Posted on 21-10-2023 09:52
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How convenient that they just happened to be recording when the explosion happened. Almost as if it had been scripted. Funny that. Don't philosophise at me you electronic moron.
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| M1795537OCVirn |
Posted on 21-10-2023 09:54
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It poured with rain all yesterday, Ms Virn, and was quite windy yesterday morning, although that died down quickly. The river will be 'out' in a day or so though, when all that water gets down from the Pennines - I suspect there will be flooding. The rain has just stopped. Not good. We didn't get any rain - unusual for the Lakes! Just a lot of wind. Hope you're well out of it. "You're not sulking, I hope?"
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| Obsidian |
Posted on 21-10-2023 09:54
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Further to your previous comments... both Dayna and Soolin must have issues around lost/missing parents. Has anyone written a fanfic about that? Both Soolin and Dayna have sought to resolve their issues by dealing with them directly, by wiping out the people they hold responsible. Don't philosophise at me you electronic moron.
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| M1795537OCVirn |
Posted on 21-10-2023 09:55
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How can anyone ban ALL leisure transport? Is that just for space travel or even planetside?
"You're not sulking, I hope?"
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| M1795537OCVirn |
Posted on 21-10-2023 09:56
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Further to your previous comments... both Dayna and Soolin must have issues around lost/missing parents. Has anyone written a fanfic about that? Both Soolin and Dayna have sought to resolve their issues by dealing with them directly, by wiping out the people they hold responsible. A good survival tactic, but what might the whole thing do to them emotionally? "You're not sulking, I hope?"
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| Obsidian |
Posted on 21-10-2023 09:57
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Vila has a wonderfully expansive knowledge about all the rough and bad things out there in the galaxy. How he's kept himself safe, no doubt, by running away from them.
Don't philosophise at me you electronic moron.
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| AnneArthur |
Posted on 21-10-2023 09:57
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They've now crashed, and again it seems to be the women trying to do something practical. Well, by this time, two of the crew are feeling fairly distressed. They know what they've got now (Scorpio) is a comedown from the Liberator and they're also aware that they've lost a lot. That's why Avon's making daft decisions and Vila is pretending he's drunk. These boys badly need an analyst, not an antagonist, which is what Tarrant is. The women know when to hold their peace. Yes, but this assumes that Soolin and Dayna don't have traumatic pasts, which they do. Nobody's undamaged here. But their damaged pasts haven't accumulated in quite the same way and aren't directly linked to this particular enterprise, whereas Avon's and Vila's are. I'm not assuming a thing. Avon and Vila are suffering from Complex Post-Traumatic Syndrome. I personally think that the major trauma for Avon is being played for a fool, successfully, twice in one year - by Anna and by Servalan. His sense of himself as the brains of any outfit has taken a hell of a battering. |
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| AnneArthur |
Posted on 21-10-2023 09:58
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Further to your previous comments... both Dayna and Soolin must have issues around lost/missing parents. Has anyone written a fanfic about that? Both Soolin and Dayna have sought to resolve their issues by dealing with them directly, by wiping out the people they hold responsible. A good survival tactic, but what might the whole thing do to them emotionally? I wonder that too. |
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| Obsidian |
Posted on 21-10-2023 10:00
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Further to your previous comments... both Dayna and Soolin must have issues around lost/missing parents. Has anyone written a fanfic about that? Both Soolin and Dayna have sought to resolve their issues by dealing with them directly, by wiping out the people they hold responsible. A good survival tactic, but what might the whole thing do to them emotionally? Well, killing people seems very much by-the-by as they are involved in a war. Soolin is hard-bitten and Dayna hasn't managed to deal with things (Servalan) yet. Dayna is very much on the early end of acquiring emotional scars. Don't philosophise at me you electronic moron.
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| M1795537OCVirn |
Posted on 21-10-2023 10:01
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Further to your previous comments... both Dayna and Soolin must have issues around lost/missing parents. Has anyone written a fanfic about that? Both Soolin and Dayna have sought to resolve their issues by dealing with them directly, by wiping out the people they hold responsible. A good survival tactic, but what might the whole thing do to them emotionally? I wonder that too. Not exactly into close relationships, for a start. "You're not sulking, I hope?"
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| M1795537OCVirn |
Posted on 21-10-2023 10:03
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Someone has dealt with much of the local buddleia as well.
"You're not sulking, I hope?"
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| AnneArthur |
Posted on 21-10-2023 10:04
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Someone has dealt with much of the local buddleia as well. The villains! Not the buddleia! |
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| Obsidian |
Posted on 21-10-2023 10:07
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They've now crashed, and again it seems to be the women trying to do something practical. Well, by this time, two of the crew are feeling fairly distressed. They know what they've got now (Scorpio) is a comedown from the Liberator and they're also aware that they've lost a lot. That's why Avon's making daft decisions and Vila is pretending he's drunk. These boys badly need an analyst, not an antagonist, which is what Tarrant is. The women know when to hold their peace. Yes, but this assumes that Soolin and Dayna don't have traumatic pasts, which they do. Nobody's undamaged here. But their damaged pasts haven't accumulated in quite the same way and aren't directly linked to this particular enterprise, whereas Avon's and Vila's are. I'm not assuming a thing. Avon and Vila are suffering from Complex Post-Traumatic Syndrome. I personally think that the major trauma for Avon is being played for a fool, successfully, twice in one year - by Anna and by Servalan. His sense of himself as the brains of any outfit has taken a hell of a battering. But he has acknowledged that. He says he never recognised the Fool. Tick! He acknowledges a partial emotional death from what happens to him on Earth. Tick! It's the bits he doesn't want to acknowledge openly (which doesn't mean he doesn't think about them) that are the issue. The disappearance of Blake, the loss of Liberator, the death of Cally, what he owes to Vila, his reliance on others when he's always claimed not to need anyone, and the parallel with Servalan and being up against a wall in his own underground room. He really doesn't want to acknowledged that he's scared out of his wits. Don't philosophise at me you electronic moron.
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| M1795537OCVirn |
Posted on 21-10-2023 10:08
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Avon, Tarrant, Soolin: they aren't looking behind them very much as they 'sneak' past the dead buddleia (sob ).
"You're not sulking, I hope?"
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| Obsidian |
Posted on 21-10-2023 10:08
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Further to your previous comments... both Dayna and Soolin must have issues around lost/missing parents. Has anyone written a fanfic about that? Both Soolin and Dayna have sought to resolve their issues by dealing with them directly, by wiping out the people they hold responsible. A good survival tactic, but what might the whole thing do to them emotionally? I wonder that too. Not exactly into close relationships, for a start. Soolin yes, Dayna still has time. Don't philosophise at me you electronic moron.
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| Obsidian |
Posted on 21-10-2023 10:09
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Someone has dealt with much of the local buddleia as well. Flame thrower. Maybe one of those hugbots. Don't philosophise at me you electronic moron.
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| Obsidian |
Posted on 21-10-2023 10:11
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This episode is shriekingly late-'70s–early '80s.
Edited by Obsidian on 21-10-2023 10:12 Don't philosophise at me you electronic moron.
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| M1795537OCVirn |
Posted on 21-10-2023 10:12
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Someone has dealt with much of the local buddleia as well. Flame thrower. Maybe one of those hugbots. Those things get everywhere. Must have been some great sales techniques from the people who made them. "You're not sulking, I hope?"
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| Obsidian |
Posted on 21-10-2023 10:13
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Someone has dealt with much of the local buddleia as well. Flame thrower. Maybe one of those hugbots. Those things get everywhere. Must have been some great sales techniques from the people who made them. Don't know what else they do. Don't philosophise at me you electronic moron.
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| AnneArthur |
Posted on 21-10-2023 10:14
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We don't ever see a Federation heavy cruiser, do we? |
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| Obsidian |
Posted on 21-10-2023 10:16
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We don't ever see a Federation heavy cruiser, do we? Not sure. What does Servalan's Captain have? Can't remember which ep. Don't philosophise at me you electronic moron.
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| Obsidian |
Posted on 21-10-2023 10:18
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Dr. Plaxton is well along on the spectrum. She's into Truth and slow on the uptake.
Don't philosophise at me you electronic moron.
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| AnneArthur |
Posted on 21-10-2023 10:19
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Dr Plaxton might have had a groundcar, so private transport was not entirely abolished after all. |
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| M1795537OCVirn |
Posted on 21-10-2023 10:19
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We don't ever see a Federation heavy cruiser, do we? Not sure. What does Servalan's Captain have? Can't remember which ep. We don't sanction publicity around our military craft. For that matter, why do you want to see our ships? "You're not sulking, I hope?"
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| Obsidian |
Posted on 21-10-2023 10:21
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It's funny that someone at the time thought these vehicles – three and multi-wheeled – were futuristic. They just make me think of the Banana Splits, which is decidedly 1960s.
Don't philosophise at me you electronic moron.
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| AnneArthur |
Posted on 21-10-2023 10:21
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We don't ever see a Federation heavy cruiser, do we? Not sure. What does Servalan's Captain have? Can't remember which ep. We don't sanction publicity around our military craft. For that matter, why do you want to see our ships? Shipspotter - I'm part of a group. We get together with our notebooks and our thermos flasks, and compare sightings. |
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| AnneArthur |
Posted on 21-10-2023 10:22
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It's funny that someone at the time thought these vehicles – three and multi-wheeled – were futuristic. They just make me think of the Banana Splits, which is decidedly 1960s. They were futuristic for quite some time . . . |
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| AnneArthur |
Posted on 21-10-2023 10:23
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And Scorpio gets Liberator's little bit of theme music. |
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| M1795537OCVirn |
Posted on 21-10-2023 10:23
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We don't ever see a Federation heavy cruiser, do we? Not sure. What does Servalan's Captain have? Can't remember which ep. We don't sanction publicity around our military craft. For that matter, why do you want to see our ships? Shipspotter - I'm part of a group. We get together with our notebooks and our thermos flasks, and compare sightings. I will pass on this information to our Intelligence people. I think they'll be interested to meet your group. "You're not sulking, I hope?"
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| Obsidian |
Posted on 21-10-2023 10:23
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We don't ever see a Federation heavy cruiser, do we? Not sure. What does Servalan's Captain have? Can't remember which ep. We don't sanction publicity around our military craft. For that matter, why do you want to see our ships? Surely someone has one of those volumes, like battleships, showing the profiles/anatomy of all craft. Don't philosophise at me you electronic moron.
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| Obsidian |
Posted on 21-10-2023 10:25
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We don't ever see a Federation heavy cruiser, do we? Not sure. What does Servalan's Captain have? Can't remember which ep. We don't sanction publicity around our military craft. For that matter, why do you want to see our ships? Shipspotter - I'm part of a group. We get together with our notebooks and our thermos flasks, and compare sightings. Exactly! Don't philosophise at me you electronic moron.
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| AnneArthur |
Posted on 21-10-2023 10:27
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And one more thing for Avon to put to the back of his mind and pretend that it didn't happen. |
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| M1795537OCVirn |
Posted on 21-10-2023 10:27
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We don't ever see a Federation heavy cruiser, do we? Not sure. What does Servalan's Captain have? Can't remember which ep. We don't sanction publicity around our military craft. For that matter, why do you want to see our ships? Surely someone has one of those volumes, like battleships, showing the profiles/anatomy of all craft. They have all been proscribed. Posession is a capital crime. "You're not sulking, I hope?"
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| Obsidian |
Posted on 21-10-2023 10:27
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It's funny that someone at the time thought these vehicles – three and multi-wheeled – were futuristic. They just make me think of the Banana Splits, which is decidedly 1960s. They were futuristic for quite some time . . . Who? The Banana Splits? Don't philosophise at me you electronic moron.
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| M1795537OCVirn |
Posted on 21-10-2023 10:28
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Dr Plaxton seems a strange sort of character all-round really. Wonder if she had any family? Did they ever find out what happened to her?
"You're not sulking, I hope?"
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| AnneArthur |
Posted on 21-10-2023 10:28
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And now I need to get back to work. My boss, while negotiating a generous extension for the bit of the heresy book that he is writing, has absolutely vetoed any extension for my bit. It has to be completed by the end of October, which will be a very tall order. |
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| Obsidian |
Posted on 21-10-2023 10:29
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We don't ever see a Federation heavy cruiser, do we? Not sure. What does Servalan's Captain have? Can't remember which ep. We don't sanction publicity around our military craft. For that matter, why do you want to see our ships? Surely someone has one of those volumes, like battleships, showing the profiles/anatomy of all craft. They have all been proscribed. Posession is a capital crime. I believe you, but I reckon AnneA's spacecraftspotters are keeping a record. Don't philosophise at me you electronic moron.
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| AnneArthur |
Posted on 21-10-2023 10:29
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It's funny that someone at the time thought these vehicles – three and multi-wheeled – were futuristic. They just make me think of the Banana Splits, which is decidedly 1960s. They were futuristic for quite some time . . . Who? The Banana Splits? No, the little buggies - futuristic in the sixties, still futuristic in the eighties. |
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| AnneArthur |
Posted on 21-10-2023 10:30
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Dr Plaxton seems a strange sort of character all-round really. Wonder if she had any family? Did they ever find out what happened to her? Now that would be an interesting fanfic. |
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