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 Rewatch Downunder Saturday 12th August C7 Children of Auron
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| AnneArthur |
Posted on 12-08-2023 09:50
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I think 'insane intergalactic war' is a bit harsh - the Andromedans invaded, after all. What did the Auronar want the humans to do, nothing? |
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| AnneArthur |
Posted on 12-08-2023 09:50
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Hello, I'm here - exhausted after a VERY intense week teaching at Keele, but I'm here. Hope you are both well. I see that I am going to have to start watching House of the Dragon, as it now has Tarrant in it. Yay. All those hours I spent trying to get the News formatted to the SC's liking and uploaded, then re-formatted and uploasded to the thread didn't go to waste, then. I did a summer school at Keele once. Hope it was fun as well as hard work. It was great fun - but you are on the go from 9am to 9pm every day. I don't think I could have managed more than a week of it! Must be getting old . . . What - the students didn't invite you to their parties (after 9pm)?  |
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| M1795537OCVirn |
Posted on 12-08-2023 09:51
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Cally deserved to be exiled? Servalan's right about the Aurons having narrow little minds.
"You're not sulking, I hope?"
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| Tyce |
Posted on 12-08-2023 09:51
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Oh my gosh that Zelda woman looks like somebody we know? Now, who is it?? |
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| M1795537OCVirn |
Posted on 12-08-2023 09:52
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OOOOH! Derrel's walking on thin ice!
"You're not sulking, I hope?"
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| Tyce |
Posted on 12-08-2023 09:53
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I think 'insane intergalactic war' is a bit harsh - the Andromedans invaded, after all. What did the Auronar want the humans to do, nothing? Yeah good point. |
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| AnneArthur |
Posted on 12-08-2023 09:55
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I don't really blame Deral and Gingka for being sceptical - this does seem a convoluted plan, even by Servalan's standards. |
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| M1795537OCVirn |
Posted on 12-08-2023 09:55
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I'd like Cally (and/or Zelda) more and think she was believable as a freedom fighter if she didn't have such a soppy voice.
"You're not sulking, I hope?"
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| AnneArthur |
Posted on 12-08-2023 09:56
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Cally deserved to be exiled? Servalan's right about the Aurons having narrow little minds. I don't think Aron comes out of this very well, as a society. |
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| M1795537OCVirn |
Posted on 12-08-2023 09:56
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I don't really blame Deral and Gingka for being sceptical - this does seem a convoluted plan, even by Servalan's standards. Think chess strategy. And it works. "You're not sulking, I hope?"
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| AnneArthur |
Posted on 12-08-2023 09:57
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'telepathy being the most obvious example' - I wonder what else the Auronar can do? |
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| M1795537OCVirn |
Posted on 12-08-2023 09:58
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'telepathy being the most obvious example' - I wonder what else the Auronar can do? decent ('elegant'  science, for starters.Stupid emojis! '(elegant)' ?? "You're not sulking, I hope?"
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| AnneArthur |
Posted on 12-08-2023 09:59
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I don't really blame Deral and Gingka for being sceptical - this does seem a convoluted plan, even by Servalan's standards. Think chess strategy. And it works. Well, she doesn't get the Liberator, her children are killed, she destroys Auron but not the Auronar, she loses a couple of her commanders and it doesn't really seem to benefit the Federation that much. That seems a very partial success. |
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| AnneArthur |
Posted on 12-08-2023 10:00
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'telepathy being the most obvious example' - I wonder what else the Auronar can do? decent ('elegant' science, for starters.Stupid emojis! '(elegant)' ?? is exactly the right emoji for elegant, surely. |
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| M1795537OCVirn |
Posted on 12-08-2023 10:00
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Servalan is SO good at finding ways of not telling the whole truth while not actually lying. Magnificent.
"You're not sulking, I hope?"
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| M1795537OCVirn |
Posted on 12-08-2023 10:02
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I think this the first time we see Servalan in black.
"You're not sulking, I hope?"
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| M1795537OCVirn |
Posted on 12-08-2023 10:03
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'telepathy being the most obvious example' - I wonder what else the Auronar can do? decent ('elegant' science, for starters.Stupid emojis! '(elegant)' ?? is exactly the right emoji for elegant, surely.Excellent point. Go to the top of the class. "You're not sulking, I hope?"
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| M1795537OCVirn |
Posted on 12-08-2023 10:04
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I don't really blame Deral and Gingka for being sceptical - this does seem a convoluted plan, even by Servalan's standards. Think chess strategy. And it works. Well, she doesn't get the Liberator, her children are killed, she destroys Auron but not the Auronar, she loses a couple of her commanders and it doesn't really seem to benefit the Federation that much. That seems a very partial success. It would all have worked if people had done as they were told! She's still alive = she wins. "You're not sulking, I hope?"
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| AnneArthur |
Posted on 12-08-2023 10:05
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I think this the first time we see Servalan in black. That's what I was thinking. Which means that the theory that the black was mourning for her dead children must be wrong. |
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| AnneArthur |
Posted on 12-08-2023 10:08
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I don't really blame Deral and Gingka for being sceptical - this does seem a convoluted plan, even by Servalan's standards. Think chess strategy. And it works. Well, she doesn't get the Liberator, her children are killed, she destroys Auron but not the Auronar, she loses a couple of her commanders and it doesn't really seem to benefit the Federation that much. That seems a very partial success. It would all have worked if people had done as they were told! She's still alive = she wins. Dum spiro, spero. But surely a really good plan would make allowances for people not doing what they were told? |
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| Tyce |
Posted on 12-08-2023 10:08
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Couldn’t the BBC afford proper Covid masks?? |
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| AnneArthur |
Posted on 12-08-2023 10:09
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Couldn’t the BBC afford proper Covid masks?? And several of them seem to be wearing them under their noses! |
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| M1795537OCVirn |
Posted on 12-08-2023 10:09
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I think this the first time we see Servalan in black. That's what I was thinking. Which means that the theory that the black was mourning for her dead children must be wrong. Also, this episode says the cloning process produces the telepathy, but way back in the WEB telepathy was already something the Auronar could do. "You're not sulking, I hope?"
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| AnneArthur |
Posted on 12-08-2023 10:11
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I think this the first time we see Servalan in black. That's what I was thinking. Which means that the theory that the black was mourning for her dead children must be wrong. Also, this episode says the cloning process produces the telepathy, but way back in the WEB telepathy was already something the Auronar could do. Well, we can't expect consistency, I suppose. |
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| Tyce |
Posted on 12-08-2023 10:11
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Couldn’t the BBC afford proper Covid masks?? And several of them seem to be wearing them under their noses! Just like the manager of our corner store….. numpty. |
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| M1795537OCVirn |
Posted on 12-08-2023 10:12
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I don't really blame Deral and Gingka for being sceptical - this does seem a convoluted plan, even by Servalan's standards. Think chess strategy. And it works. Well, she doesn't get the Liberator, her children are killed, she destroys Auron but not the Auronar, she loses a couple of her commanders and it doesn't really seem to benefit the Federation that much. That seems a very partial success. It would all have worked if people had done as they were told! She's still alive = she wins. Dum spiro, spero. But surely a really good plan would make allowances for people not doing what they were told? Only if they were all mutoids. Which would make her too vulnerable since they can't think for themselves. So she uses people (preferably ones she has some sort of hold over) but doesn't trust anyone, and is angry, but not much surprised, when they fail her. Edited by M1795537OCVirn on 12-08-2023 10:15 "You're not sulking, I hope?"
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| Tyce |
Posted on 12-08-2023 10:14
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I think this the first time we see Servalan in black. That's what I was thinking. Which means that the theory that the black was mourning for her dead children must be wrong. Also, this episode says the cloning process produces the telepathy, but way back in the WEB telepathy was already something the Auronar could do. Not to mention Dawn of the Gods where telepathy is included in legends. |
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| M1795537OCVirn |
Posted on 12-08-2023 10:16
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I think this the first time we see Servalan in black. That's what I was thinking. Which means that the theory that the black was mourning for her dead children must be wrong. Also, this episode says the cloning process produces the telepathy, but way back in the WEB telepathy was already something the Auronar could do. Not to mention Dawn of the Gods where telepathy is included in legends. Yup! Also, are they Aurons, or the Auronar? "You're not sulking, I hope?"
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| M1795537OCVirn |
Posted on 12-08-2023 10:18
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That surrogate womb model is really very good.
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| AnneArthur |
Posted on 12-08-2023 10:22
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That surrogate womb model is really very good. Yes, it is. |
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| M1795537OCVirn |
Posted on 12-08-2023 10:22
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This disease is worrying, too. If it was introduced because of the Intergalactic War, how come the older Auronar /Aurons have developed an immunity?
"You're not sulking, I hope?"
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| M1795537OCVirn |
Posted on 12-08-2023 10:23
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Servalan's still got Imipak, then. Good to know.
"You're not sulking, I hope?"
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| AnneArthur |
Posted on 12-08-2023 10:25
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This disease is worrying, too. If it was introduced because of the Intergalactic War, how come the older Auronar /Aurons have developed an immunity? I think the idea is that they are more immune to disease generally. But it is very sloppy. |
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| AnneArthur |
Posted on 12-08-2023 10:26
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That's such an odd episode - lots of interesting ideas, but lots of inconsistencies too. Very Blake's 7. |
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| Tyce |
Posted on 12-08-2023 10:26
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One thing Jan said at the Brit Sci Fi was that she love doing the episodes where she got to play somebody else during the episode - like Zelda and in Sarcophagus. Because as an actor, she loved chance to try play other characters. |
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| M1795537OCVirn |
Posted on 12-08-2023 10:27
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Rather too much hilarity at Avon's parting shot, I thought. It wasn't that funny. Still a great episode, despite it not making sense, either internally or within the B7 canon, and not really achieving anything except that everyone survives except the apparently expendable current Auron/ar population. "You're not sulking, I hope?"
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| AnneArthur |
Posted on 12-08-2023 10:28
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One thing Jan said at the Brit Sci Fi was that she love doing the episodes where she got to play somebody else during the episode - like Zelda and in Sarcophagus. Because as an actor, she loved chance to try play other characters. I wish Zelda had got a bit more development - or that we had seen their other siblings. |
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| AnneArthur |
Posted on 12-08-2023 10:29
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I have to go now - I'm meeting someone for lunch. Thanks for the rewatch, and see you next week, when Avon finally gets his long-postponed revenge. |
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| M1795537OCVirn |
Posted on 12-08-2023 10:30
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One thing Jan said at the Brit Sci Fi was that she love doing the episodes where she got to play somebody else during the episode - like Zelda and in Sarcophagus. Because as an actor, she loved chance to try play other characters. I don't bame her, she was a bit wasted as Cally! The writers never really got to grips with what being telepathinc could mean. "You're not sulking, I hope?"
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| Tyce |
Posted on 12-08-2023 10:31
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That's such an odd episode - lots of interesting ideas, but lots of inconsistencies too. Very Blake's 7. I always think this episode isn’t anywhere near what I would’ve imagined the Auron’s to be like. To me, they seem way too ordinary and boring. I think I would consider that they would be more deep and enlightened. |
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