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 Rewatch Downunder Saturday 20th July, C3 Volcano
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| Obsidian |
Posted on 20-07-2024 10:30
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I like the idea that the icky whale space cruiser is a captured Andromedan ship. A canoe for you Mr. Dredd.  I LOVE that space cruiser and want to know why I've not seen any good models of them. Don't philosophise at me you electronic moron.
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| Joe Dredd |
Posted on 20-07-2024 10:30
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6m: I really love the colour palette of the Liberator deck tonight. And I do like the golden hues of the Obsidian HQ  The 'Watching Blake's 7" website has some brilliant discussions on different design elements of the show, including the colour palette. It's well worth a read. |
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| M1795537OCVirn |
Posted on 20-07-2024 10:31
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I like the idea that the icky whale space cruiser is a captured Andromedan ship. Maybe Matt had used all his hair dryers and kitchen implements by then. "You're not sulking, I hope?"
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| dodgyville |
Posted on 20-07-2024 10:32
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51m: Back on the Liberator the gang fly off. AVON: Servalan's options were to take it or to destroy it. Either way, she won. CALLY: I don't think so. She lost, and we lost. Only the Pyroans won. VILA: If that's winning, I'll take losing every time. A solid little mission statement about the moral dilemma of the episode delivered there at the end! If only the episode had actually articulated those different beliefs better earlier it had potential to be a top shelf episode. ok, well that was Volcano. |
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| Obsidian |
Posted on 20-07-2024 10:32
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6m: I really love the colour palette of the Liberator deck tonight. And I do like the golden hues of the Obsidian HQ The 'Watching Blake's 7" website has some brilliant discussions on different design elements of the show, including the colour palette. It's well worth a read. I spoke to Tim about my glassware and he offered to upload them on his site if I don't have the time to do more than put together all the info. Don't philosophise at me you electronic moron.
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| Joe Dredd |
Posted on 20-07-2024 10:32
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I like the idea that the icky whale space cruiser is a captured Andromedan ship. Ooh, I do like that I can't claim credit for the thought, but I think it's a great explanation why it's so different from all the other ships we see. |
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| AnneArthur |
Posted on 20-07-2024 10:32
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Haven't seen that episode for a while - I always seem to be busy on the rewatch day. Still not a favourite, but nice to see it again. |
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| M1795537OCVirn |
Posted on 20-07-2024 10:32
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Oh, bother, it's gone and finished.
"You're not sulking, I hope?"
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| AnneArthur |
Posted on 20-07-2024 10:34
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51m: Back on the Liberator the gang fly off. AVON: Servalan's options were to take it or to destroy it. Either way, she won. CALLY: I don't think so. She lost, and we lost. Only the Pyroans won. VILA: If that's winning, I'll take losing every time. A solid little mission statement about the moral dilemma of the episode delivered there at the end! If only the episode had actually articulated those different beliefs better earlier it had potential to be a top shelf episode. ok, well that was Volcano. Possibly an episode that Star Trek would have done better, by giving more time to the philosophical side? |
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| dodgyville |
Posted on 20-07-2024 10:34
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The true MVP of the episode was either the volcano or the robot, it's a tie |
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| Joe Dredd |
Posted on 20-07-2024 10:34
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51m: Back on the Liberator the gang fly off. AVON: Servalan's options were to take it or to destroy it. Either way, she won. CALLY: I don't think so. She lost, and we lost. Only the Pyroans won. VILA: If that's winning, I'll take losing every time. A solid little mission statement about the moral dilemma of the episode delivered there at the end! If only the episode had actually articulated those different beliefs better earlier it had potential to be a top shelf episode. I hadn't thought about it before, but there's a sort-of continuity of theme with Death-watch, with their different approaches to avoiding armed conflict on a mass scale. |
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| Obsidian |
Posted on 20-07-2024 10:35
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51m: Back on the Liberator the gang fly off. AVON: Servalan's options were to take it or to destroy it. Either way, she won. CALLY: I don't think so. She lost, and we lost. Only the Pyroans won. VILA: If that's winning, I'll take losing every time. A solid little mission statement about the moral dilemma of the episode delivered there at the end! If only the episode had actually articulated those different beliefs better earlier it had potential to be a top shelf episode. ok, well that was Volcano. Mmm. Probably, in the end, depended on the adults getting the point and the kids not. It could have been tighter, that's for sure. Allan Prior tends to be a bit sloppy in B7. Starts out well but doesn't carry through. Don't philosophise at me you electronic moron.
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| M1795537OCVirn |
Posted on 20-07-2024 10:35
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51m: Back on the Liberator the gang fly off. AVON: Servalan's options were to take it or to destroy it. Either way, she won. CALLY: I don't think so. She lost, and we lost. Only the Pyroans won. VILA: If that's winning, I'll take losing every time. A solid little mission statement about the moral dilemma of the episode delivered there at the end! If only the episode had actually articulated those different beliefs better earlier it had potential to be a top shelf episode. ok, well that was Volcano. Possibly an episode that Star Trek would have done better, by giving more time to the philosophical side? Dangerous talk, AnneA! "You're not sulking, I hope?"
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| Joe Dredd |
Posted on 20-07-2024 10:36
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A canoe for you Mr. Dredd. Thanks, Obsidian. It's been a bit chilly this winter so I'll probably wait until later in the year to take it for a spin. |
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| dodgyville |
Posted on 20-07-2024 10:36
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A tiny little through line there that Cally was also from a pacifist society (that was also destroyed... and also destroyed by Servalan's scheming) that could have been the backbone for the whole episode if they had thought about it! |
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| Obsidian |
Posted on 20-07-2024 10:38
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I like the idea that the icky whale space cruiser is a captured Andromedan ship. Ooh, I do like that I can't claim credit for the thought, but I think it's a great explanation why it's so different from all the other ships we see. Apart from Libby, it's my favourite space craft. Way ahead of Scorpio. It look truly nasty. When Servie does a character swap, the craft she uses isn't nearly as scary. Don't philosophise at me you electronic moron.
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| dodgyville |
Posted on 20-07-2024 10:39
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51m: Back on the Liberator the gang fly off. AVON: Servalan's options were to take it or to destroy it. Either way, she won. CALLY: I don't think so. She lost, and we lost. Only the Pyroans won. VILA: If that's winning, I'll take losing every time. A solid little mission statement about the moral dilemma of the episode delivered there at the end! If only the episode had actually articulated those different beliefs better earlier it had potential to be a top shelf episode. ok, well that was Volcano. Possibly an episode that Star Trek would have done better, by giving more time to the philosophical side? Dangerous talk indeed but I could see ST teasing out the topic better (but skimping on the cool factor that B7 brings) Edited by dodgyville on 20-07-2024 10:39 |
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| Joe Dredd |
Posted on 20-07-2024 10:39
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I spoke to Tim about my glassware and he offered to upload them on his site if I don't have the time to do more than put together all the info. I was wondering how you were going with that project, but it sounds like your hands full (and then some) with everything else. |
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| Obsidian |
Posted on 20-07-2024 10:39
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A canoe for you Mr. Dredd. Thanks, Obsidian. It's been a bit chilly this winter so I'll probably wait until later in the year to take it for a spin. A bit fresh on the Harbour today. Don't philosophise at me you electronic moron.
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| AnneArthur |
Posted on 20-07-2024 10:39
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I like the idea that the icky whale space cruiser is a captured Andromedan ship. A canoe for you Mr. Dredd. I LOVE that space cruiser and want to know why I've not seen any good models of them. Very nice. Where do they come from? |
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| M1795537OCVirn |
Posted on 20-07-2024 10:40
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It's great how there's so much going on in B7 that even deep philosophical themes get pushed aside to make room for relationships, special skills eg. telepathy), ship placements (not to mention design), power struggles, seismicity, stupid robots.... Great rewatch, but mostly because of who I'm rewatching it with.. Thanks, everyone. See you next time. "You're not sulking, I hope?"
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| Obsidian |
Posted on 20-07-2024 10:40
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The true MVP of the episode was either the volcano or the robot, it's a tie The volcano, hands down. Don't philosophise at me you electronic moron.
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| AnneArthur |
Posted on 20-07-2024 10:40
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51m: Back on the Liberator the gang fly off. AVON: Servalan's options were to take it or to destroy it. Either way, she won. CALLY: I don't think so. She lost, and we lost. Only the Pyroans won. VILA: If that's winning, I'll take losing every time. A solid little mission statement about the moral dilemma of the episode delivered there at the end! If only the episode had actually articulated those different beliefs better earlier it had potential to be a top shelf episode. ok, well that was Volcano. Possibly an episode that Star Trek would have done better, by giving more time to the philosophical side? Dangerous talk indeed but I could see ST teasing out the topic better (but skimping on the cool factor that B7 brings) I agree. |
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| dodgyville |
Posted on 20-07-2024 10:40
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Wait, is there B7 glassware floating around? |
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| AnneArthur |
Posted on 20-07-2024 10:41
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I like the idea that the icky whale space cruiser is a captured Andromedan ship. Ooh, I do like that I can't claim credit for the thought, but I think it's a great explanation why it's so different from all the other ships we see. Apart from Libby, it's my favourite space craft. Way ahead of Scorpio. It look truly nasty. When Servie does a character swap, the craft she uses isn't nearly as scary. The season 4 ships are very boxy, like the cars of the period. |
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| Tyce |
Posted on 20-07-2024 10:41
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I’m gonna to run away. See you all next week. |
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| M1795537OCVirn |
Posted on 20-07-2024 10:42
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A tiny little through line there that Cally was also from a pacifist society (that was also destroyed... and also destroyed by Servalan's scheming) that could have been the backbone for the whole episode if they had thought about it! But the episodes are in the wrong order... "You're not sulking, I hope?"
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| Obsidian |
Posted on 20-07-2024 10:42
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I like the idea that the icky whale space cruiser is a captured Andromedan ship. A canoe for you Mr. Dredd. I LOVE that space cruiser and want to know why I've not seen any good models of them. Very nice. Where do they come from? New Guinea and surrounding Melanesian islands. Very, very desirable objects. The prows get removed and sell for $$$$$$ on the ethnographic art market. Don't philosophise at me you electronic moron.
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| Joe Dredd |
Posted on 20-07-2024 10:42
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Good night Tyce, nice to see you. I hope you are surviving all the windy weather. |
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| dodgyville |
Posted on 20-07-2024 10:42
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I like the idea that the icky whale space cruiser is a captured Andromedan ship. Ooh, I do like that I can't claim credit for the thought, but I think it's a great explanation why it's so different from all the other ships we see. Apart from Libby, it's my favourite space craft. Way ahead of Scorpio. It look truly nasty. When Servie does a character swap, the craft she uses isn't nearly as scary. The season 4 ships are very boxy, like the cars of the period. They were able to resist a lot of "Star Wars" originally but by 1982 I feel they couldn't resist "The Empire Strikes Back" envy when Series D rolled around 
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| M1795537OCVirn |
Posted on 20-07-2024 10:43
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Wait, is there B7 glassware floating around? Not exactly floating, but Obsidian has been tracking it down for years. "You're not sulking, I hope?"
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| AnneArthur |
Posted on 20-07-2024 10:43
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A tiny little through line there that Cally was also from a pacifist society (that was also destroyed... and also destroyed by Servalan's scheming) that could have been the backbone for the whole episode if they had thought about it! That would have worked very well - however, at least they remembered the telepathy. |
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| AnneArthur |
Posted on 20-07-2024 10:44
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I like the idea that the icky whale space cruiser is a captured Andromedan ship. A canoe for you Mr. Dredd. I LOVE that space cruiser and want to know why I've not seen any good models of them. Very nice. Where do they come from? New Guinea and surrounding Melanesian islands. Very, very desirable objects. The prows get removed and sell for $$$$$$ on the ethnographic art market.  Thanks. |
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| Obsidian |
Posted on 20-07-2024 10:46
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Wait, is there B7 glassware floating around? No, sorry. As Tim Dickinson has done with Watching Blake's 7 and the fantastic MCM furniture used in B7, I've been collating (and collecting) all the info on the MCM barware and other drinkware used in the show. It's mostly very desirable Scandi/Nordic/British glassware.
Don't philosophise at me you electronic moron.
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| dodgyville |
Posted on 20-07-2024 10:46
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Yes, thanks for that link to the website... the article on the Lamps of Blake's 7 is strangely interesting and illuminating
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| AnneArthur |
Posted on 20-07-2024 10:47
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OK. I think that summer is due to end tomorrow, and will be declining today, so I ought to get soe use out of the sunlounger before it goes. I do love the discussions this rewatch throws up - I am now aware of crocodile-prowed canoes, for a start (and how much I should charge for one, should I wish to sell it)! See you all next week. |
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| Obsidian |
Posted on 20-07-2024 10:47
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Wait, is there B7 glassware floating around? Not exactly floating, but Obsidian has been tracking it down for years. Obsidian, being glass, has a natural interest. Don't philosophise at me you electronic moron.
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| dodgyville |
Posted on 20-07-2024 10:47
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Good night everyone, have a good week (a storm has just hit here) |
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| Joe Dredd |
Posted on 20-07-2024 10:47
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They were able to resist a lot of "Star Wars" originally but by 1982 I feel they couldn't resist "The Empire Strikes Back" envy when Series D rolled around :( I was just reading about that yesterday. By the time they got to S4, a lot of the new young VFX people had grown up with, and got into the field because of, Star Wars, and they all wanted to make ships like it had. Also too, with their 'kit-bashing' approach, there's a lot of Millennium Falcon bits used in the detail on Scorpio. |
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| Obsidian |
Posted on 20-07-2024 10:48
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I like the idea that the icky whale space cruiser is a captured Andromedan ship. Ooh, I do like that I can't claim credit for the thought, but I think it's a great explanation why it's so different from all the other ships we see. Apart from Libby, it's my favourite space craft. Way ahead of Scorpio. It look truly nasty. When Servie does a character swap, the craft she uses isn't nearly as scary. The season 4 ships are very boxy, like the cars of the period. They were able to resist a lot of "Star Wars" originally but by 1982 I feel they couldn't resist "The Empire Strikes Back" envy when Series D rolled around It was only 1981. Edited by Obsidian on 20-07-2024 10:49 Don't philosophise at me you electronic moron.
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