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Rewatch Downunder: C9 Sarcophagus - Saturday 27th August
Obsidian
God, I had EXACTLY Cally's hairstyle at that time.
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Obsidian

M1795537OCVirn wrote:

Obsidian wrote:

AnneArthur wrote:

Obsidian wrote:

AnneArthur wrote:

'Your helplessness brings out my sadistic streak'. Nicely observed, I think - although it's not just helplessness, IMO, it's that Vila seems so content to be helpless, and even to stress how feeble he is.


There's clearly an evolutionary advantage to being like that, like baby humans.


Yes, and in Vila's case it is conscious, I think. He's too small to be a bully, so he survives by being harmless, amusing and useful.


The amusing part is critical.


Yep. And Vila's 'personality' is just as manipulative as anyone else's, playing on their sympathies. He's more than capable of looking after himself in whatever way he needs to.


That's why I like the play-off between him and Avon because they are both survivors, they just use different methods.
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AnneArthur

Obsidian wrote:

God, I had EXACTLY Cally's hairstyle at that time.


Which one? Cally-alien or Cally-Cally?
 
Obsidian
Saved again.
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Obsidian

AnneArthur wrote:

Obsidian wrote:

God, I had EXACTLY Cally's hairstyle at that time.


Which one? Cally-alien or Cally-Cally?


Cally-Cally.
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Tyce
Why should Dayna be used to revolting thoughts?
 
AnneArthur

Obsidian wrote:

M1795537OCVirn wrote:

Obsidian wrote:

AnneArthur wrote:

Obsidian wrote:

AnneArthur wrote:

'Your helplessness brings out my sadistic streak'. Nicely observed, I think - although it's not just helplessness, IMO, it's that Vila seems so content to be helpless, and even to stress how feeble he is.


There's clearly an evolutionary advantage to being like that, like baby humans.


Yes, and in Vila's case it is conscious, I think. He's too small to be a bully, so he survives by being harmless, amusing and useful.


The amusing part is critical.


Yep. And Vila's 'personality' is just as manipulative as anyone else's, playing on their sympathies. He's more than capable of looking after himself in whatever way he needs to.


That's why I like the play-off between him and Avon because they are both survivors, they just use different methods.


And they both recognise that.
 
Obsidian

Tyce wrote:

Why should Dayna be used to revolting thoughts?


I think she's really a bad, bad girl.
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AnneArthur
Tanith Lee uses the Richard III gambit in both her stories. One person threatens to kill another, and the other says 'go on then', knowing that it won't happen.
 
Obsidian

AnneArthur wrote:

Tanith Lee uses the Richard III gambit in both her stories. One person threatens to kill another, and the other says 'go on then', knowing that it won't happen.


Fair observation. And it works well. I prefer this version though.
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Tyce
Thanks for the company guys. See you next week
 
Obsidian

Tyce wrote:

Thanks for the company guys. See you next week


'Bye Tyce. Have a good week, won't you?
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AnneArthur
How does Avon destroy the ring, though? It should take more than just tossing it away to get rid of it.
 
Obsidian
I was just thinking of Pilot53. I hope his big event is going well.
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AnneArthur

Tyce wrote:

Thanks for the company guys. See you next week


Have a good week!
 
M1795537OCVirn

Obsidian wrote:

Tyce wrote:

Why should Dayna be used to revolting thoughts?


I think she's really a bad, bad girl.


I think that justifies what I said about her earlier!
"You're not sulking, I hope?"
 
Obsidian

AnneArthur wrote:

How does Avon destroy the ring, though? It should take more than just tossing it away to get rid of it.


Good question. As with all these things, we assume that everything is resolved after the episode finishes – as in, when do they drag away the bodies. One hopes that he stomped on it with his nice Anello and Davide boots.
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AnneArthur

Tyce wrote:

Why should Dayna be used to revolting thoughts?


Vila having a little dig back at her, I think. I don't really see why ORAC being back on his feet IS a revolting thought, though.
 
M1795537OCVirn
OK, it's over ( for another year). But it's Ultraworld next. And I bet even that is somoeone's favourite episode. Oh, well. Thanks for a lovely rewatch, all. See you next time.
"You're not sulking, I hope?"
 
AnneArthur

Obsidian wrote:

AnneArthur wrote:

How does Avon destroy the ring, though? It should take more than just tossing it away to get rid of it.


Good question. As with all these things, we assume that everything is resolved after the episode finishes – as in, when do they drag away the bodies. One hopes that he stomped on it with his nice Anello and Davide boots.


Good to know that the company survives so many centuries and changes of government!

But, as to the ring, I suppose we have to assume that if it is no longer on Cally, it is useless, and that Cally now has no desire to put it on again.
 
Obsidian

M1795537OCVirn wrote:

Obsidian wrote:

Tyce wrote:

Why should Dayna be used to revolting thoughts?


I think she's really a bad, bad girl.


I think that justifies what I said about her earlier!


Never doubted it for one minute. She goes from fairly innocent-looking girly thing to trouble on wheels in no time. I expect she was a wild child – had to be, given all the weapons she created. Being on Libby enabled that side of her to come to the fore.
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AnneArthur

M1795537OCVirn wrote:

OK, it's over ( for another year). But it's Ultraworld next. And I bet even that is somoeone's favourite episode. Oh, well. Thanks for a lovely rewatch, all. See you next time.


It's not a favourite - but it's different, and interesting. I find the giant brain in Ultraworld hard to take seriously. Not one of the better episodes.
 
Obsidian

M1795537OCVirn wrote:

OK, it's over ( for another year). But it's Ultraworld next. And I bet even that is somoeone's favourite episode. Oh, well. Thanks for a lovely rewatch, all. See you next time.


Not mine. Grin We need a blue-faced emoji too.
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AnneArthur
Nice to see you all, anyway! Thanks for an entertaining morning.
 
Obsidian

AnneArthur wrote:

M1795537OCVirn wrote:

OK, it's over ( for another year). But it's Ultraworld next. And I bet even that is somoeone's favourite episode. Oh, well. Thanks for a lovely rewatch, all. See you next time.


It's not a favourite - but it's different, and interesting. I find the giant brain in Ultraworld hard to take seriously. Not one of the better episodes.


I was thinking "And whom do we have to blame for it?" Trevor Hoyle. Hmm. I'm sure we'll find something in it though.

See you next time Anne. Good luck with cramming.
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AnneArthur

Obsidian wrote:

AnneArthur wrote:

M1795537OCVirn wrote:

OK, it's over ( for another year). But it's Ultraworld next. And I bet even that is somoeone's favourite episode. Oh, well. Thanks for a lovely rewatch, all. See you next time.


It's not a favourite - but it's different, and interesting. I find the giant brain in Ultraworld hard to take seriously. Not one of the better episodes.


I was thinking "And whom do we have to blame for it?" Trevor Hoyle. Hmm. I'm sure we'll find something in it though.

See you next time Anne. Good luck with cramming.


Thank you! Hope you are feeling better by next week.
 
Travisina
Hi All,

I've just caught up with the thread - interesting discussions as ever, and sorry to have missed it. Not least because while taking mother-in-law to the bank and dentist, I managed to get a parking ticket AngryAngryAngry
Sigh. No good deed goes unpunished.

I love Sarcophagus. I love its weirdness, the way it's written and directed, the superb character interactions. Agree that it's a haunted house story (or rather, haunted ship).

Those of you who've not yet read any of Tanith's books, allow me to recommend the following:
1. Kill The Dead. Although it's been denied, the characters are based on Avon and Vila, or rather, Paul and Michael. Even the names of the characters: 'Parl Dro' (which is what Paul's signature looked like), and 'Myel'. And she dedicated it to 'Valentine'. Not based on Avon? Yeah, right. https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/8...l_the_Dead

2. The Silver Metal Lover. Heartbreaking beautiful love story; I re-read it every few years when I'm in the mood for a really good wallow. https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/5...etal_Lover

3. When the Lights Go Out. Annoyingly, I loaned this to a producer I was working with, thinking he might like to acquire and develop it (we were working on Sugar Rush at the time). And I never got it back. It's dark and spooky, very atmospheric. https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/...hts_Go_Out
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