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The Prisoner
Gauda Cheese
What's your order?

Assuming you all have seen the 1967 show starring Patrick "I turned down James Bond" McGoohan, do you have your own order for the series? Or do you go by the DVD's? Or someone else's compiled list?

I made my own sometime back yet cannot find it so off the top of my head I came up with this:

Arrival
Free For All
Dance of the Dead
Checkmate
The Chimes of Big Ben
The General
A, B and C
Many Happy Returns
The Schizoid Man
Hammer Into Anvil
It's Your Funeral
A Change of Mind
Do Not Forsake Me Oh My Darling
Living in Harmony
The Girl Who Was Death
Once Upon A Time
Fall Out.

The show can be watched in any order so long as Arrival is first and Once... and Fall Out are last. The General always comes before A, B and C because Number 2 in A, B and C says "I am Number 2" not "The New Number 2. Having said that though it doesn't matter.

Anyway with that out of the way whose seen this show? What'd you think? For me there's only one stinker which is Do Not Forsake.... My favourite episode is Dance of the Dead with Mary Morris as Number 2.
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Spaceship Dispatcher
I watched them in DVD order; my favourite episodes are Checkmate and The Girl Who Was Death
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briggsy1
I wish ITV4 would repeat these as I'd love the opportunity to reappraise them.
 
trevor travis
Original UK Broadcast Order
1. Arrival
2. The Chimes of Big Ben
3. A, B, & C
4. Free for All
5. Schizoid Man
6. The General
7. Many Happy Returns
8. Dance of the Dead
9. Checkmate
10. Hammer into Anvil
11. It's You're Funeral
12. A Change of Mind
13. Do Not Foresake Me of My Darling
14. Living in Harmony
15. The Girl Who Was Death
16. Once Upon a Time
17. Fall Out

Original US Broadcast Order
1. Arrival
2. The Chimes of Big Ben
3. A, B, & C
4. Free for All
5. Schizoid Man
6. The General
7. Many Happy Returns
8. Dance of the Dead
9. Do Not Foresake Me of My Darling
10. It's You're Funeral
11. Checkmate
12. Living in Harmony (not shown on first US run, but placed here during later runs)
13. A Change of Mind
14. Hammer into Anvil
15. The Girl Who Was Death
16. Once Upon a Time
17. Fall Out
 
rojkerr1
Dance of the dead is my fave ep too, wonderfully bleak and nightmareish story, I agree with your running order, dance of the dead should be a much earlier story, as No6 says "quite recently" when asked how long he's been in the Village. Mcgoohan turned down Bond twice, once at the beginning, once when Lazenby took it over, apparently he was friends with Connery who told him he might return if the price was right...if you go on Facebook, I have a story in the Prisoner club files, Three into Six, which teams the Prisoner with another famous ITC series...have a look!
 
rojkerr1
the Prisoner was originally going to be a serial,just 7 eps, Arrival, Chimes, Dance, Free For All, Checkmate, Once upon and Fallout - apparently the powers that be insisted that it be extended to a full series, minimum 17 eps, glad they did,wud really miss Schizoid Man, A B and C etc
 
rojkerr1
the film that Mcgoohan made during the Prisoner was pretty good, ICE STATION ZEBRA - the case that made Drake resign!?
 
trevor travis
The Prisoner was originally supposed to have more than one series. "Once Upon A Time" was the supposed to be the final episode (episode 13) of the first series. But Lew Grade was highly concerned about the way this very expensive series was going (it cost Ł70,000 per episode in 1967) and wanted it wrapped up. There was a minimum contract obligation of 17 episodes, so a few more "stopgap" episodes were produced, plus a final episode to conclude it.

But to be honest, the show lost its way after Executive Producer Patrick McGoohan took complete control. George Markstein's original ideas were subverted somewhat, and I don't rate "Once Upon A Time" or "Fall Out" much.

Favourite episodes? "The Chimes Of Big Ben" and "The Girl Who Was Death". Also like "Arrival", "Schizoid Man", "Checkmate" and "Hammer Into Anvil".

Least favourite episodes? "Do Not Forsake Me Oh My Darling" and "Living In Harmony".
Edited by trevor travis on 01 December 2014 18:02:37
 
Spaceship Dispatcher
trevor travis wrote:

Favourite episodes? "The Chimes Of Big Ben" and "The Girl Who Was Death". Also like "Arrival", "Schizoid Man", "Checkmate" and "Hammer Into Anvil".

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trevor travis
Spaceship Dispatcher wrote:
SD and TT agreement alert!! Agreement alert!! This site will self destruct in one minute and counting.... Oops


Uh-oh, last time that happened, I was projected 37 minutes into the future Grin
 
Gauda Cheese
Once Upon A Time has to be one of the most intense hours of TV I've ever seen. I love it. Leo McKern had a nervous breakdown because of it and no TT thats not because the story is bad.

Much like B7 I think the Prisoner is still talked about and watched today because of its final episode.

Hammer into Anvil is great, Number 2 gets the metaphor all wrong. Hammers break, anvils don't.

I like them all really, but some I rewatch more than others.
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Gauda Cheese
briggsy1 wrote:

I wish ITV4 would repeat these as I'd love the opportunity to reappraise them.


They are all on YouTube, if you want to catch them again. May I suggest my running order Oops
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Spaceship Dispatcher
Something that does not work, only for me personally, about The Prisoner is the fact that with ambiguity and secrecy so central to the premise it obstructs deeper character building; the whole point is you can't know who anyone is or really know anything about them. The creativity and ideas in the scripts stand very much in its favour, and the selling point of all the location filming at Portmeirion is there even if other aspects of the drama can be a bit shallow.
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Gauda Cheese
Spaceship Dispatcher wrote:

Something that does not work, only for me personally, about The Prisoner is the fact that with ambiguity and secrecy so central to the premise it obstructs deeper character building; the whole point is you can't know who anyone is or really know anything about them. The creativity and ideas in the scripts stand very much in its favour, and the selling point of all the location filming at Portmeirion is there even if other aspects of the drama can be a bit shallow.


How many broken down Prisoner's do you want to meet before Number 6 goes back to being anti social? Oops
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littlesue
Being a mere 13 year old when this programme started, I had to beg my parents to let me stay up and watch it. (it was way past my bedtime!). And I am so glad that they did!
The verbal sparring that took place between Mr MacG and the guest No. 2 actors was something to behold. I would have loved to have been on the set when they were taking place.
I loved the Girl Who Was Death as well.
The 'Western' episodes were great fun.
Going to Portmeirion is an experience.....Grandson asked, "Why are you running across the beach shouting I am not a number?".
He enjoyed the ice cream best, by the way.
Mr MacG also gives a nod to The Prisoner in one of his episodes of Columbo. As he drives off from Mr Falk, he says 'Be seeing you!'.
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Spaceship Dispatcher
Gauda Cheese wrote:

How many broken down Prisoner's do you want to meet before Number 6 goes back to being anti social?

Not sure I understand the comment GC - my problem is with the format of the programme; the way characters are not really explored in terms of their feelings and motivations, lives and loves, rather than the quantity of characters or episodes. Even No.6 is never explored in a lot of depth because he too is an ambiguous figure.
Edited by Spaceship Dispatcher on 02 December 2014 08:01:05
Reversing the polarity of the neutron flow. I bet that means something. It sounds great.

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Spaceship Dispatcher
trevor travis wrote:

The final episode is a mess.

Definately agree there! It was a sort of two parter at the end wasn't it? Not a proper two part story as such, but they were very closely linked unlike most of the rest of the series which was stand alone stories...

0804
Reversing the polarity of the neutron flow. I bet that means something. It sounds great.

Blake's 7: Trojan Horse (s4 fanfic) - Blake's 7: Through the Needle's Eye (s2 fanfic)

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trevor travis
Gauda Cheese wrote:

Once Upon A Time has to be one of the most intense hours of TV I've ever seen. I love it. Leo McKern had a nervous breakdown because of it and no TT thats not because the story is bad.

Much like B7 I think the Prisoner is still talked about and watched today because of its final episode.


No, I think it's talked about because of the fantastic Portmerion location, plus the brilliant initial set-up episode which is then condesenced into a fantastic intorduction for following episodes.

The final episode is a mess. and a McGoohan ego trip.

There should have brought back George Markstein to wrap it up. Patrick McGoohan was a great actor and pretty good at directing as well, but he was no writer.

Actors writing is, in general, a bad idea. It does sometimes work e.g. Ian McCulloch (Survivors) proved to be a cracking writer.
 
trevor travis
Spaceship Dispatcher wrote:

Definately agree there! It was a sort of two parter at the end wasn't it? Not a proper two part story as such, but they were very closely linked unlike most of the rest of the series which was stand alone stories...

0804


Kind of. There was actually a year between the filming of the two, as Once Upon A Time was intended to wrap up Season 1, while Fall Out was hastily written to wrap up the series when Lew Grade decided he’d massaged McGoohan’s ego for long enough and it was time to put an end to the mayhem.

I actually like much of the Prisoner, but it definitely jumps the shark around the time of Do Not Forsake Me Oh My Darling (although I do love the Girl Who Was Death).

The Prisoner is a lesson of the perils of putting an actor in complete charge of a show.
 
Gauda Cheese
trevor travis wrote:

Gauda Cheese wrote:

Once Upon A Time has to be one of the most intense hours of TV I've ever seen. I love it. Leo McKern had a nervous breakdown because of it and no TT thats not because the story is bad.

Much like B7 I think the Prisoner is still talked about and watched today because of its final episode.


No, I think it's talked about because of the fantastic Portmerion location, plus the brilliant initial set-up episode which is then condesenced into a fantastic introduction for following episodes.

The final episode is a mess. and a McGoohan ego trip.

There should have brought back George Markstein to wrap it up. Patrick McGoohan was a great actor and pretty good at directing as well, but he was no writer.

Actors writing is, in general, a bad idea. It does sometimes work e.g. Ian McCulloch (Survivors) proved to be a cracking writer.


Patrick did write Free For All Pfft A great episode.

I love the surrealness of the final episode. And yes I do think the ending is a BIG part or why it's still watched.
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