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The Gift of B7
Gauda Cheese
trevor travis wrote:

Gauda Cheese wrote:

trevor travis wrote:

Gauda Cheese wrote:

Next? Eight consistently good to great episodes! I hope Michelle will think so too.


Headhunter to Blake is a great run of episodes Pfft


Agreed. Three of my top five are in this group Pfft


Er... Sand, Orbit and Blake?

(or Gold? or Warlord? or Headhunter?)

Both Blake and Orbit are in my favourite five episodes, although my favourite five episodes always ends up having six in it, becuase I don't want to exclude Sarcophagus. Grin


Rumours of Death, Orbit, Sarcophagus, Gold, Sand............... Though Gold and be interchanged with Blake depending on mood.

Looks like we both win Uncle Terry's School of Maths!
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Gauda Cheese
Joe Dredd wrote:

trevor travis wrote:
my favourite five episodes always ends up having six in it


Congratulations TT, you have now graduated from the Terry Nation School of Maths!


Now I know that if I see anything major in my way, I don't go back or go around it, but I fly straight at the bloody thing!
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trevor travis
My top 5:
0. Blake
1. Rumours Of Death
2. City At The Edge Of The World
3. Orbit
4. Star One
5. Sarcophagus

Oh drat, that leaves out Death-Watch, I need to somehow squeeze in a seventh Grin
 
trevor travis
Gauda Cheese wrote:

Joe Dredd wrote:

trevor travis wrote:
my favourite five episodes always ends up having six in it


Congratulations TT, you have now graduated from the Terry Nation School of Maths!


Now I know that if I see anything major in my way, I don't go back or go around it, but I fly straight at the bloody thing!


The problem is, the Terry Nation School Of Maths teaches you that space is 2D, as Blake's sketch on the screen in "Duel" shows.

Naughty Ben Steed failed at the Terry Nation School Of Maths by regarding space as 3D and actually rolling the Liberator out of the line of fire. Grin
 
Gauda Cheese
trevor travis wrote:

My top 5:
0. Blake
1. Rumours Of Death
2. City At The Edge Of The World
3. Orbit
4. Star One
5. Sarcophagus

Oh drat, that leaves out Death-Watch, I need to somehow squeeze in a seventh Grin


See I left out City and Death-Watch! Dang it. Also missed Games. I loves Games.
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Gauda Cheese
trevor travis wrote:

Gauda Cheese wrote:

Joe Dredd wrote:

trevor travis wrote:
my favourite five episodes always ends up having six in it


Congratulations TT, you have now graduated from the Terry Nation School of Maths!


Now I know that if I see anything major in my way, I don't go back or go around it, but I fly straight at the bloody thing!


The problem is, the Terry Nation School Of Maths teaches you that space is 2D, as Blake's sketch on the screen in "Duel" shows.

Naughty Ben Steed failed at the Terry Nation School Of Maths by regarding space as 3D and actually rolling the Liberator out of the line of fire. Grin


Terry must have been pissed off.
http://stwco.word... Stuff and things written by me.

My podcast: http://GATM.buzzs...
 
trevor travis
Gauda Cheese wrote:
Terry must have been pissed off.


Indeed - Terry was going to exile Ben Steed to Cygnus Alpha, found that was it a bit pricey, so settled on Australia instead Grin
 
Gauda Cheese
trevor travis wrote:

Gauda Cheese wrote:
Terry must have been pissed off.


Indeed - Terry was going to exile Ben Steed to Cygnus Alpha, found that was it a bit pricey, so settled on Australia instead Grin


Steed's in Australia? Where where!

Also a convict joke? Realllllly? Pfft
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trevor travis
Gauda Cheese wrote:

trevor travis wrote:

Gauda Cheese wrote:
Terry must have been pissed off.


Indeed - Terry was going to exile Ben Steed to Cygnus Alpha, found that was it a bit pricey, so settled on Australia instead Grin


Steed's in Australia? Where where!

Also a convict joke? Realllllly? Pfft


Ben Steed was Australian, wasn't he? I don't think I'm making that up. Not sure where he is these days.

As for the convict joke, sorry, it was hard to resist. Grin

Especially as Terry "borrowed" the idea for the purposes of B7. If you think about it, Cygnus Alpha is his version of 18th & 19th century Australia. It's a Terry trait, taking something historical and placing it in a future setting.
 
Gauda Cheese
trevor travis wrote:

Gauda Cheese wrote:

trevor travis wrote:

Gauda Cheese wrote:
Terry must have been pissed off.


Indeed - Terry was going to exile Ben Steed to Cygnus Alpha, found that was it a bit pricey, so settled on Australia instead Grin


Steed's in Australia? Where where!

Also a convict joke? Realllllly? Pfft


Ben Steed was Australian, wasn't he? I don't think I'm making that up. Not sure where he is these days.

As for the convict joke, sorry, it was hard to resist. Grin

Especially as Terry "borrowed" the idea for the purposes of B7. If you think about it, Cygnus Alpha is his version of 18th & 19th century Australia. It's a Terry trait, taking something historical and placing it in a future setting.


That's okay 5 nil Ashes series and all that Grin

If you say he is Australian I believe you, if he's in Melbourne I may have to track him down and grill him relentlessly.
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Joe Dredd
trevor travis wrote:
As for the convict joke, sorry, it was hard to resist. :D


We always used to spin it the other way - "Don't go to England - that's where all the convicts come from!" : )
 
Gauda Cheese
Joe Dredd wrote:

trevor travis wrote:
As for the convict joke, sorry, it was hard to resist. Grin


We always used to spin it the other way - "Don't go to England - that's where all the convicts come from!" : )


Ha!
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littlesue
trevor travis wrote:

Joe Dredd wrote:

trevor travis wrote:
my favourite five episodes always ends up having six in it


Congratulations TT, you have now graduated from the Terry Nation School of Maths!


I do love the B7 approach to maths and science, which mostly involves ignoring it, and getting on with the story. Grin


And what's wrong with that? (I have a Grade 1 CSE in Nuffield Chemistry, which equates to an 'O' level, but I'm still none the wiser about science). And I failed my maths 'O' level FIVE times. Mr Willis, my last maths teacher couldn't understand why...I'm now working in accounts, by the wayGrin
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Cold is when you have ice on the INSIDE of the window!!!


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Gauda Cheese
littlesue wrote:

trevor travis wrote:

Joe Dredd wrote:

trevor travis wrote:
my favourite five episodes always ends up having six in it


Congratulations TT, you have now graduated from the Terry Nation School of Maths!


I do love the B7 approach to maths and science, which mostly involves ignoring it, and getting on with the story. Grin


And what's wrong with that? (I have a Grade 1 CSE in Nuffield Chemistry, which equates to an 'O' level, but I'm still none the wiser about science). And I failed my maths 'O' level FIVE times. Mr Willis, my last maths teacher couldn't understand why...I'm now working in accounts, by the wayGrin


Story comes first!
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trevor travis
Gauda Cheese wrote:

trevor travis wrote:

Gauda Cheese wrote:

trevor travis wrote:

Gauda Cheese wrote:
Terry must have been pissed off.


Indeed - Terry was going to exile Ben Steed to Cygnus Alpha, found that was it a bit pricey, so settled on Australia instead Grin


Steed's in Australia? Where where!

Also a convict joke? Realllllly? Pfft


Ben Steed was Australian, wasn't he? I don't think I'm making that up. Not sure where he is these days.

As for the convict joke, sorry, it was hard to resist. Grin

Especially as Terry "borrowed" the idea for the purposes of B7. If you think about it, Cygnus Alpha is his version of 18th & 19th century Australia. It's a Terry trait, taking something historical and placing it in a future setting.


That's okay 5 nil Ashes series and all that Grin

If you say he is Australian I believe you, if he's in Melbourne I may have to track him down and grill him relentlessly.


I wonder where he is these days. It would be interesting to find out.

In the meantime, I've found this (2012 Olympic medal table):

1 United States 46 29 29 104
2 China 38 27 23 88
3 Great Britain & N. Ireland 29 17 19 65
4 Russian Federation 24 26 32 82
5 South Korea 13 8 7 28
6 Germany 11 19 14 44
7 France 11 11 12 34
8 Italy 8 9 11 28
9 Hungary 8 4 5 17
10 Australia 7 16 12 35

Grin

(Okay, that's probably enough of the England/Australia game of oneupsmanship, back to Gauda Cheese's fascinating "Gift Of B7" watch with his sister)
 
Gauda Cheese
trevor travis wrote:

Gauda Cheese wrote:

trevor travis wrote:

Gauda Cheese wrote:

trevor travis wrote:

Gauda Cheese wrote:
Terry must have been pissed off.


Indeed - Terry was going to exile Ben Steed to Cygnus Alpha, found that was it a bit pricey, so settled on Australia instead Grin


Steed's in Australia? Where where!

Also a convict joke? Realllllly? Pfft


Ben Steed was Australian, wasn't he? I don't think I'm making that up. Not sure where he is these days.

As for the convict joke, sorry, it was hard to resist. Grin

Especially as Terry "borrowed" the idea for the purposes of B7. If you think about it, Cygnus Alpha is his version of 18th & 19th century Australia. It's a Terry trait, taking something historical and placing it in a future setting.


That's okay 5 nil Ashes series and all that Grin

If you say he is Australian I believe you, if he's in Melbourne I may have to track him down and grill him relentlessly.


I wonder where he is these days. It would be interesting to find out.

In the meantime, I've found this (2012 Olympic medal table):

1 United States 46 29 29 104
2 China 38 27 23 88
3 Great Britain & N. Ireland 29 17 19 65
4 Russian Federation 24 26 32 82
5 South Korea 13 8 7 28
6 Germany 11 19 14 44
7 France 11 11 12 34
8 Italy 8 9 11 28
9 Hungary 8 4 5 17
10 Australia 7 16 12 35

Grin

(Okay, that's probably enough of the England/Australia game of oneupsmanship, back to Gauda Cheese's fascinating "Gift Of B7" watch with his sister)


Indeed. Tomorrow night is Headhunter or Orac the....... nah I'll leave that as a surprise.
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Chase123
Aftermath

I'd like to say that this is as enjoyable as it once was. It's not but that's okay. It was still enjoyable. Seeing Vila and Cally for their brief cameos was nice and we even get an explanation for Blake and Jenna, even later again. This is basically a solo adventure for Avon and he holds it up admirably. The planet looks great and the savages are not as embarrassing as the ones in the Keeper. But...did anyone think Hal Mellanby just a bit too lax on his having Servalan as a house guest after he was against the Federation and a rebel that had all his people killed? Including his wife? To just let her roam around free? And Dayna, after a nice few sequences kissing Avon and all...and being a warrior...gets insulted by Servalan and lets her get up out of bed and go kill Hal? And what of both of them leaving the adopted sister alone to guard outside? In any case, there's a lot of good stuff and some sequences between Servalan and Avon are well done. I still like this episode but it is annoying how no one can kill Servalan. Still it is a shot in the arm having Blake and Jenna gone, Vila and Cally lost somewhere, and The Liberator...well, at first Zen says the damage is beyond repair but then the auto repairs manage it somehow...huh? It's also a shot in the arm to have the Federation all but gone...but is it? A good story to start with and lots of action but some questions arise over Hal and Dayna's laxness...perhaps they don't really see the bad in anyone?


Powerplay

Okay, Vila's quite stupid in this episode but so is Cally. I like this episode and it's really just Aftermath part two. So far this season, the location shootings look fantastic and the sets look even better. We see the Liberator flight deck for the first time this season (at least I think so) intact. It looks rather grand. We see a room also and underneath the floors, which looks quite grand. The organ bank thing was sort of new to tv and movies (COMA) in the late 70s and early 80s but it's old hat now but not so badly done in this. Those evil hater Hi Techs. Vila should have been suspicious of them. All said, he still gets some nice lines but the episode is really Avon's. Some warrior Dayna turns out to be. How did they get the drop on her? Did they come through the floor? All said, her and Avon together remind me of...and really...Emma Peel and John Steed, at least in this episode as they make quips over dead bodies and step over them just the same. Once Tarrant is added to the mix...its like the New Avengers. And yes, I didn't expect him to be the murderer! In addition, it might have been better if Tarrant WAS a Federation officer who wanted to join Blake's team instead of someone who just...did. Also: Where the heck was Orac? Did he teleport aboard with Avon and Dayna? If so it was off screen. We get more mentions of Jenna and Blake being safe. Servalan continues to annoy and as a villain that's a good thing. She's rather grand here and proves that the Federation is not all that destroyed as first thought. Pity that but there has be a driving force behind the bad guys in this show. I wonder if with little help the Federation could be the same ones behind Star Trek? Perhaps not. Where did Tarrant and for that matter the Fed officers come aboard? The same airlock that Jenna, Blake and Avon came in on? If so why didn't the defense kick in? Damaged? Was the still activated? I quite like Zen in this episode but then I always liked Zen. By his silence he says so much. All in I was not sure what was happening with the spaceship Cally was on. Was it part of the same planet? Was Vila on Chenga and the ship was from it, too? It seemed like it but none of that matters much as the whole story comes together. Vila and Servalan meeting was funny and again, he gets some good lines. Lots of extras inhabit the scenes, too.


Volcano

Simple story nicely done with danger everywhere, the Liberator both in danger and in control as Zen itself battles a fleet...and wins because the fleet want Liberator. Servalan also wants it and Orac and both come into play here. That said, the planet with a major volcano (never fully explained was the volcano a side effect of the bomb inside it? and how could a volcano be the only one on the planet? weren't there more seismic disturbances?), a people who have tried to shock therapy (a minor dose) and propaganda and education aggression out of homo sapiens. The volcano is also a deterrent to anyone who wants to occupy the planet. Avon has his hands full with a fleet and a group of Fed officers on board. Tarrant claims once again to be a Fed officer (an Ex Fed officer) but Vila says, "He says lots of things." And do we and they believe him? But he's not the only one getting a retcon---Vila claims that he bought his "dumb" class and that he could have been a Space Fleet Commander...Avon believes it more of Tarrant than Vila. Vila is actually smart in this episode, wary of the whole planet.

Vila gets the best lines. One of the best scenes has Vila and Avon sitting on the Liberator as things explode randomly around them, Avon is wounded, Cally and Orac are prisoners below, Dayna and Tarrant have not checked in yet, and the fleet bound to return to take or destroy Liberator. Very funny stuff actually between them. Avon has many good lines, too. Set apart from Jenna and Blake, these two just shine as the leads. More links with Dayna's father's friend played by Michael Gough (of Doctor Who, Batman 1990s series of movies, AND a creepy movie HORRORS OF THE BLACK MUSEUM and KONGA, among others.

Nothing Earth shattering but Obsidian ("even the name sound ominous"Wink shattering, this episode is entertaining enough with danger everywhere and a good idea for a philosophy but in true pessimistic B7 fashion it ends badly for the people who have that philosophy (as Vila says, "If that's winning, I'd rather lose every time."Wink. Oh and the robot that does the killing of the man's son is rather like one of those robots from Japanese live action shows such as Ultraman or Japanese sci fi movies like the robot in Godzilla vs Megalon. Again, though, the landscapes, locations, and sets are a vast improvement over the past seasons even if the effects and model work are not. The models are not terrible but their motions is. AND just what is Servalan's cruiser supposed to look like? A giant killer whale in space? Also how does she get to and fro from it to the planet and back again? Supposedly the cruiser has to land and pick her up every time? Can it evade detection that long from Zen and Liberator? I doubt it. She does not have a teleporter of her own yet (wouldn't that have made a good story? The Feds trying their own teleport devices and the need for the B7 crew to destroy or stop that).

In any case, a good episode with one very good looking guard down on the planet. Oh, and Tarrant and Dayna make good impressions, if I haven't mentioned that yet. They have from the beginning. They do not make me miss Blake or Jenna at all!

Dawn of the Gods

Mix the alien gods theory of STAR TREK (Whom Gods Destroy and the Roman/Greek episodes), LOST IN SPACE (the awful SPACE VIKINGS), and SPACE: 1999 (various from BOTH seasons) and add in the black holes of 1999, the bald psi beings (or was the Tharn really psychic?--his powers hardly match the TREK villains from THE CAGE) of TREK, the absurdness of some of the more outlandish LOST IN SPACE's (the Caliph and his top hat and wand pain dispenser would not be out of place in ANY season of LOST IN SPACE) and then shake together, you'll get this. I'ts not a bad episode and it really moves. First it becomes a problem in space...and we get proper space adventure as the Liberator encounters a problem with Zen and Orac. Zen seems...even more cold and aloof in this episode and Orac seems more the opposite. I love them both. I'ts difficult to remember that the same man voices them, they are so very different.

We get more space adventure as Vila has to venture outside the ship (again, with the airlock it does seem rather like LOST IN SPACE and with Vila acting more like Dr. Smith here ("I may not be the bravest man in the galaxy." "Are you sure?"Wink he does seem like he's in the episode FORBIDDEN WORLD. Mix in the large screens that reminded me of the screens in DOCTOR WHO'S FACE OF EVIL and...well there's the dialog that carries this and the ironic bit about a bald dwarf named Orac...and then the Tharn goes and appears as a bald dwarf. Pity he never returns as an enemy as maybe something more could have been made of him. He does very little really in the actual action of the episode except trust Cally...and it does seem, for once, to be rather callous that she wants to kill him...but she does not.

Not sure why Grof does not go with them but maybe he was needed to stay behind and blow things up? Also why are the Liberator crew allowed to keep their guns? That bit makes NO sense. Also: did the Liberator actually land on the floor of the dark "cavern"? Again, more LOST IN SPACE allusions as the Jupiter often had to land in dark places and usually with its legs out and usually with former unseen doors used to gain access...as here with Liberator. Glad to see Liberator's defenses active again.

It was also interesting that Avon was going to save himself during the black hole bit but it all fits---but where would he go? Out into space? On a half destroyed Liberator? I love all the ways the crew find around not directly answering questions without lying about Orac, who's splendid in this episode. An interesting episode and exciting in a way but lots of questions about all those plot holes above.
Harvest of Kairos

Oh my God. I freaking love this episode! I'm not sure but there must be flaws but I don't care, I freaking love this episode! When I began rewatching the entire series, I thought that maybe my feelings about season three (and to some extent four) would change. I happen to think that these two seasons are better than one and two in many ways. This episode seems like a shot in the arm to revive the show.

This episode has everything: a new Federation "villain" that cannot be any different from Travis if they tried; Servalan getting turned on by what she calls a primitive man but who has some honor and who doesn't just kill his henchmen (Mutos or Mutoid deaths are okay to him) and who feels and does not think that computers are better than feeling and thinking; a VERY dangerous planet; the crew acting as thieves for the first time in a long time; more of Tarrant (say, did he just WINK at Vila!?) and Dayna back to being a warrior. Gosh, Jarvis, I wish you could have lived to become a main villain for the next two seasons at least somewhat but I'm guessing the show doesn't want to fall into the same trap that they did with Travis and to be fair, Jarvis GOT the Liberator and bested Tarrant (and almost Dayna, who's life he saved!).

On top of everything, we have Servalan getting on board the Liberator, seeing Cally again, having plans for Orac and that failing, using and meeting Zen (just how did she hear of Zen's impudence? Who told her about Zen? Vila? Vila's calls during Aftermath?), and getting some kind of "love" for Jarvis---she really didn't seem to want to see him die (although moments after his death she's still planning on killing Dayna if she could).

AND we have Avon disinterested in the gang's heist and more interested in a rock! Yes, that's right. While everyone else lives for and is abandoned by the Federation (the poor laborers are left behind along with one sadistic guard...hope HE gets his comeuppance) for a different valuable rock, Avon has another, living rock or so some believe it to be. Avon's obsession with it is just the right side of ...strange and pure Avon. AND Avon gets at least one brilliant scene with Servalan and gets the better of her under a losing situation. Just wonderful!

Then we have those monsters. To be honest, there have been worse DW monsters, worse Lost In Space and Space; 1999 monsters and have you looked at the Star Trek Gorn lately? This is no better or worse than some of those and the monsters do not dominate the episode as they would have in DWho. They fulfill what they need to do and present a danger.

Everything seems to come together in this episode at least for me. One thing: that module: where did it come from? Was it an early landing thing that was just left there after the Federation returned? I don't think we ever found out. I don't care. I love it and I love this episode.

Again, Avon and Vila (less so this time for Vila) have some of the best lines but there are great lines between Servalan and Jarvis and between Tarrant and Avon (who gets to use his "present company NOT excepted" for the first time...and reuses it in the LIBERATOR CHRONCILES VOLUME 3---a VERY good audio of three disks that reintroduces Anna Grant's brother).

Very entertaining. And love the space battles too. Forgot to mention Servalan’s shoulder decoration: fashion victim but not as bad as other episodes’ outfits. Forgot to mention Servalan’s shoulder decoration: fashion victim but not as bad as other episodes’ outfits. And someone did mention why they need the money? AND also why didn't they look in the boxes? I don't care about these flaws, did I say that?
 
Chase123
City at the Edge of the World

I love this episode too. A fun episode with loads of funny lines, funny scenes, and funny characters including Colin Baker as Babyban ("his mum used to call him Babe, did you know that?"Wink the Butcher. Also Valentine Dyall as a nice old man! In any case, this is really a Vila episode but don't let that fool you, the others have nice parts too and Cally and Dayna are made dangerous again and get in on the action. Cally nearly kicks Babyban's butt and Dayna uses a heat seeking grenade on wheels! Avon and Vila, in fact Avon and Cally and Avon and Tarrant share some great lines, dialog and scenes.

I LOVE that Avon sticks up for Vila against Tarrant and also is impressed by Vila's getting the crystals they need for the blasters at the end of the episode...having found them on Vilaworld/Homeworld ("Terrific. That makes it all worthwhile."Wink. I also like that Tarrant, after seeming like a callous, horrid bully to Vila, apologizes to him ("I really don't care," Vila says.) It all fits together nicely again and I'm not sure the whole backstory to the planet, the doors, the terminals, the spaceship, etc, all makes any sense but it sort of does...I think. Not that that matters to me because, again, this episode is so much fun. Come to think of it the ship trying to find a suitable world is somewhat reminiscent of THE TOMORROW PEOPLE-A MAN FOR EMILY (where one of the more grim parts of that horrible "comedy" episode is that the Ship passes up habitable worlds for the retarded Family because it was not ready switch itself off).

Once more Tarrant has met the villain (as with last episode's Jarvis). This villain is so much fun and different from Jarvis and Travis...in that he's insane. Completely. Even though Tarrant says the others won't stop him or care if he puts Vila off Liberator (and Vila seems to agree), Cally and Avon do seem protective toward Vila against Tarrant but don't act on it. Avon feels they need a good thief but scare him too much and his worth goes down. Avon makes a veiled threat against Tarrant who seems to call him to do it. Even Dayna seems repugnant toward Tarrant for what he did to Vila.

Most of the time, mostly because of the last lines (very funny lines from Orac and Vila about Vila's mistake and Keril's legs), one thinks Vila made a choice. If he had had time to think about it on the planet in that room...Bayban's last attack seems to not allow Vila time to change his mind...he would have gone back to the planet and live a life with Keril. In the last episode, Vila dreamed of being waited on by lovely little...and he never finished the sentence but Tarrant tells him that if Vila had a wife and family, he'd be bored...in the last episode. Vila seems to return here because he is a thief but again, he MIGHT have changed his mind. Funny that no one seems to consider Keril going with the crew of Liberator to Liberator. Maybe she just realized she's not cut out for mercenary/rebel/criminal work. The planet set is nice but really cheap looking and it looks like night although Vila calls it "in the sun or daylight" or something like that. Did he love Keril?

I wish a sequel would be made to this now that Big Finish is doing them! There are also some tense sequences as the crew try to figure out how these seemingly peaceful people have Vila and set a bomb trap for them...unnerving too in that some of them just seem to ignore Cally and Avon. The "city" as Vila approached it looked like a Stonehenge to me from outside but the city model work was okay.

OH and one flaw: a mike is seen as Vila urges the old man to take Keril away as Bayban holds the laser cannon or a blaster on them.

One of my favorite, it not favorite episodes! oh and one of the first times in these episodes that Down and Safe has returned. Variations have included Down Safely and Safely down and maybe it happened a few other times but I missed it? Here we hear Cally say, "Down and Safe."

some of my favorite lines in the series so far: that keep sticking in my mind:

Vila: I don't want to go.
Avon: (Sarcastically) You surprise me.

Vila: (waking up) Oh, I'm in hell and it's full of Avons.

Children of Auron

Well since it's about the death of children and fetuses it's a hard one to like, not to mention the other deaths of good people...almost all of Cally's people...but two and 5000 future babies...it's hard to like this but still it is a rousing adventure and the scenes of the four running for their lives through...a college ground (?) and the same waterworks that possibly Liz fell off of in DW's AMBASSADORS OF DEATH...while being followed by at least one blast and others out of camera range...but the thing is Zelda has a point...the fetuses of Servalan didn't do anything wrong...or is Zelda just stupid? Science seems to go a long way in showing that genetics can predict or steer the course of one's evil. Jackie Pearce does a great job here and Servalan has never been so evil. Two henchmen, an entire planet, and having the workers taken out and shot...she is just so evil...and stupid to forget about Dayna. The actor who played Ginka was in The Tomorrow People in one of their best stories, The Doomsday Men. This is really Cally's story and frankly while I like Cally, she's not the most interesting of the crew. Uhm, that would be Vila and Avon and then Zen and Orac and then Tarrant and Dayna. In any case, Vila gets some good lines and there are some subtle and not so subtle bonds between Cally and Avon ("Affection for him?"Wink. Love Vila squaring off against Servalan even from afar over the radio and his precautions are somewhat what all of us would think of in a similar situation. Still, it's hard to like an episode with a horrible disease (and why I found Nation's The Survivors so hard to watch)...it's grim and so horrible.

I am not sure where Cally is as Zelda dies or is everyone just standing on the teleport pad that long? In any case, not long after that everyone (but Cally) is having a bit of a laugh over the idea of 5000 babies. Just how are two people going to do that? Telepathically I hope! Still at least they survived. This reminded me of Boys from Brazil in the faintest way. Maybe it would be interesting if some of Servalan's clones survived!?

Also of note is that the Clone Masters had a demise. Probably during the war with the aliens. I am also not sure that being isolationist would make the Aurons unable to fight off a disease and the others able to fight it off. If it is an alien bug then being isolated or not should not make a difference. Who's been exposed to an alien bug? Or was it just something Servalan devised and said was an alien bug?
When someone mentioned clone sisters of Cally and someone replacing Cally, I admit I never thought about those other possibilities. Frankly identical stuff can be...rather cliché and boring sometimes but then again there is sometimes a good reason to do it. Lost In Space managed some good with His Majesty Smith with a...hard working, chivalrous good Dr. Smith~

On the other hand they never really seemed to know what they wanted Cally and her people to be: at times I felt they wanted them to be peace loving soft telepaths and at other times they wanted Cally to be this warrior girl...none of it really gelled for me as I had just come out of liking the most peace loving telepaths ever...the Tomorrow People and none of the Cally stuff rang true for me. I like Cally despite all that and felt Jan gave her more life than the writing did.

Rumors of Death

This is the best episode, probably of the entire series. Before I begin I forgot to mention that Cally brought back the "down and safe" in City at the edge of the World". Up to now it's been variations. Another thing is that the last episode also did a deadly virus which I believe two other episodes did.

Lorna Heilbron is the sister of Vivian Heilbron and they must be twins because they look almost exactly alike and the former is Anna Grant, the later is Major Anne Turner, a telepath in the TOMORROW PEOPLE who works for the government, not a dis-similar role to her sister. It's odd to see David Haig, a main guest star in DW's terrible THE LEISURE HIVE here as a minor role...sort of. In fact, Forrester and his boss, the Major G (forgot his full name) were very likable men in charge of security at the Presidential Palace, which looks very grand---it was difficult to see them die as they were fleshed out characters and not evil cyphers or one dimensional men following orders. I actually wanted them to live. Even most of the rebels were nice. There's a lot of that macho male action ---you know where guys shoot guys and take their clothes and then take their bodies during a clean up ....but I won't hold it against the episode. The episode is actually quite startling in its mean-ness: Avon sets himself up to be tortured until he gets the man who tortured Anna..or so he thought...one Shrinker, mentioned last episode. He then traps Shrinker underground somewhere...where? With a gun to kill himself. One almost feels sorry for him.

Tarrant seems less a savage who likes pain less ("You really are a prize, Avon" when Avon lets the dying man go to fall) than Avon and in fact, due to all the circumstances in this episode, Avon has started down the slope to full blown psychotic. He really wants so bad to trust someone...and holds out for that trust, only to have it betrayed. Still, he keeps his word to Servalan. WHY? He should have killed her. Jackie almost outdoes her great performance in the last episode in this episode...("It's an old wall, Avon, it waits"Wink but her role is smaller here. In fact, everyone acts up a storm in this episode...

AND WHAT was that "Well Ahhh" movement Tarrant gave after the other three knock out guards that he's distracted. He really can be quite adorable, can't he?

Of course Vila has the best lines ("Cheers Orac"Wink and almost everything he says is a great line. Cally shows some sympathy and Dsyna and Tarrant gets some lines as well ("We care" and "It surprised us as well"Wink and almost every line is either dead serious, deadly funny, or needed.

I still don't get some of the whole Anna thing: was she or wasn't she working for the Federation? Did she just want to get Servalan out so she could set herself up as the new Servalan?

Also listened to WARSHIP: it's very good and such fun!

And to wrap this up, of course, Avon gets some good lines in, too. Paul does a great job here, too.

Avon: "You know what the irritating thing about Orac is?"
Dayna: He's too useful to destroy.

Just a perfect episode really, lot of character interplay, depth, and intrigue and action.

SARCOPHAGUS
Sorry folks, but I love this episode too. It is a typical Cally gets taken over episode but the plot is the only thing typical. I think the whole thing is just so strange and alien especially the first 20 minutes or so. Vila didn’t land in the coffin on his head, the egg thing they took back was gray and then blue, not sure why Avon blamed Zen for the mishap with the teleporter but like the interplay here between Cally and Avon. I also like…wait for it…all of Vila’s lines. He’s just so funny in this and in the entire show. The long lasting look at the end…just very memorable. A lot this plays like THE MUMMY, any version. Oh and the alien thing in the ship…makes the sound of the Rutan from DW-Horror of Fang Rock. Much of the imagery (pentagram like thing on the floor making the alien manifest, a female taken over and spoken to) and one sound effect is also very IMAGE OF THE FENDAHL. I wasn’t sure what the images at the start and the end were supposed to be: were these gods of an alien people? Were the crew reincarnated? Was it just Cally’s mind linked to the thing? Fashion victims: Dayna wears high heels throughout and the alien as Cally has on …an alien outfit that rivals Servalan’s wardrobe. Why Cally let it have a go at the others but protected Avon is beyond me and Dayna’s explanation seems…okay I guess. Love her talk with Vila at the end (“That doesn’t seem right to me.” “Then obviously it’s the right one.” “Even Orac’s back on his feet.” “What a revolting idea.” “You should be used to those.”) And there’s more dialog that is just splendid. Love Avon vs Tarrant here and both of them seem right. Zen gets on the blink, too. I also love that the alien gives me hope Liberator might have survived its death: the ship has the ability to regenerate and vast energy that can survive. Maybe… past BLAKE? Blake is mentioned almost every episode now. There seem to be shadows in Cally’s room that move. Dayna gets taken AGAIN! What kind of warrior is she? I even like the confrontation at the end: Avon vs alien and the alien doesn’t seem as if it wants to kill. Why it didn’t kill Avon…I had forgotten the hag face it became briefly. AND Avon kissed that! In all, I find this episode a nice reprieve from the Fed episodes and I like it just as much. I like Avon telling Tarrant to shut up and Avon defending Cally (the reason he told him to shut up). All in all, I love this episode too. This season is still my favorite thus far. And lots of explosions on the flight deck, too. Makes me think of the time it will be totally destroyed…or will it?
 
Chase123
Ultraworld

Perhaps it's just because I've seen this episode more than any of the others but it actually put me to sleep! Yet, I like it. I think the idea of Vila working with Orac telling riddles and jokes to confuse an enemy is a great one. The rest? The pair bonding thing between Dayna and Tarrant is a bit...strange. If the core had many other humanoids, surely they should know about this...on the other hand, all they seemed to have was a bunch of old men...who had their bodies taken over by the core and even so they could mostly beat up Tarrant and Dayna and take Cally and Avon by surprise. We also get a sort of stuff that we have had before: Cally influenced by the alien force (one of these just last episode) and getting everyone into trouble; the Liberator taken inside a larger space object; more powerful aliens (say were these guys supposed to be naked? If not their suits had veins on them...and their necks had the same veins. They had a naked feel to their costumes...this also reminded me of DW's PLANET OF THE OOD with a giant brain controlling everything or so. There is a lot of run around but the location sets look very much what this thing should look like...inside a giant computer sort of. Oh and does Dayna pull that bomb out of her ass? The core looks like crap. No, really. Crap that leaks green. Not much more to say about this except too bad they didn't have an extra episode to fool around with and had Tarrant get Cally and Avon's memories/personalities mixed up. I'm sure there is a fan fic somewhere about that. I just love Orac in this...oh, and Vila too. That final line ("what Orac is saying is that a logical, reasonable intelligence is no match for your's"Wink and the looks Cally gives smiling Vila and then Vila dropping his smile, is just priceless as is Avon's smile. Although Vila gets the best lines, Avon gets at least one, "I take nothing on trust." It is ODD that in the last episode everyone had to convince Avon to go explore an alien ship..and he didn't want to and HERE, Avon had to convince them. Maybe they were sore from their last encounter with an alien ship...but if so, why wasn't he? All in all, a nice runaround and maybe good to see once or twice but not as many times as I have!

Moloch
There’s plenty of flaws in this episode but…for some reason I still like it. First, it’s really a Vila episode and that’s always a good thing. Second, we see Servalan once again in a position of power and non power almost at the same time. Third, Vila is offered to Servalan for…what exactly, sex…and with the man doing the offering not knowing. Fourth Vila wants to quit the Liberator (and Avon also says, “The Liberator is more important than Tarrant!”) and is made a Fed captain. Fifth, every other character is pretty much inspired from Gross to the happy Doran (did HE have to die or die he?) to the girls (did the brunette have to die?) to Lector. Of course Moloch itself is so over the top how can one not like that thing? Of course again the old plot chestnut of having a civilization/man/scientist extrapolate what his kind will look like after millions of years of evolution is called into play (see THE OUTER LIMITS-THE MAN WITH THE SIXTH FINGER for a more realistic approach) but even that’s interesting. We also sort of get the matter transmitter from THE FLY and/or the cloning machines from LOST IN SPACE (various episodes but including THE SPACE DESTRUCTORS, OUR MAJESTY SMITH and the two episodes that have a device the Robinson Robot uses in THE SPACE VIKINGS and THE GALAXY GIFT). Somehow here it all ties together. I never really noticed then how…sort of stretched the writers were to give plausible reasons for the crew to get involved…I just followed it as the Fed needed to be spied on and gotten to somehow but one flaw is: why do the crew have to get involved? Another: why didn’t Servalan kill Tarrant or for that matter Vila (“Vila, you really must be more trusting”)? Servalan once told Avon “You always did come first,” in HARVEST OF KAIROS and now she tells Vila “You always were a miserable coward.” In some ways, in some scenes, Servalan is almost played as a heroine against the enemy Gross. I’m not sure why the penal colonists were sent there in the first place….Fed men for Gross to use in future but why were they on that ship to begin with? Were penal colonists always sent there. Another good line is Doran, “Women. They always were my problem.” Vila, “You like them?” “No.” Which means Doran is probably gay and likes Vila but is gracious enough to give Vila a woman…unwittingly Servalan. Again, I do wish that electric charge didn’t kill Doran and the girl. Funny that we never fully find out. In fact, almost everyone seems to get shot in the arm and/or shot off screen (all those men that Servalan shot---say didn’t she have more than two or three on her ship? And was her ship in space or on the ground). And how can Moloch be so stupid as to make that really dumb mistake, leading to his own demise. I’d say another draft of this story would have been in order where Cally figured out how to teleport him without his machinery…sensing it telepathically. To add to the pluses, we get Avon concerned about Vila again and a sharp visual look IMO. There is a lot we do not see though: Tarrant’s interrogation, Servalan killing the guards and getting two of her pilots (was one of those the Mutoid?), a lot of Vila and Doran’s journey (how long did this take?), and more (did the blond girl get raped and killed?) Vila seems to lose his bracelet but then…it’s on his wrist. And some sources say a Liberator shot is upside-down! In any case, I enjoyed this episode and I know it more than most of the other episodes as I’ve seen it more.


Death-Watch

Sorry all but this is my favorite episode of B7, probably of all. Yes, the cast is mostly sidelined and watching events but I don't care: their dialog, in fact, all the dialog is just amazing and not a word is wasted. Paul Darrow is at the top of his game. Mike Keating is just awesome in every scene he's in and his banter with...well, everyone, especially Cally and Dayna is fun and interesting ("Maybe it has something to do with the fact that you won't be."Wink I love his fun chase after Cally and his none too subtle comments to Dayna, who's repulsed it would seem. I like that Vila mentions the blind thing and then remembers Dayna's father and apologizes to her.

But it is Stephen Pacey who made me actually forget that he was playing Deeta. I actually felt he was a totally different person. I was caught up in Deeta and Max from the moment they came on screen. The episode starts and one might be forgiven for thinking at first that they were watching some other space show. It's not a typical B7 start for one, for another, the ships looks very good as opposed to just good or adequate, the sets are almost vast and sterling...then there's the shooting and no blood and you know you're kinda in B7. Later, when he dies, we do see blood. The actor who plays Max is so very good, too. Everyone is fully developed. In one scene Pacey has something on his forehead, running make up maybe? Acne?

We see a mike that at first I thought was just part of the newscast with the commentator in it but then...why does it pull up and hide on us? In any case, the commentator has a hard hitting newscast and then he's...full of complaints. The other voice (the cameraman? the director?) has such jibes at him and the commentator back at him that it felt as if they were meant to be a pair of old queens...and/or lovers. The dialog between them is quite funny ("OH you were THINKING. That must be novel for you."Wink.

We do get some use for Cally's telepathic ability here which is positive. I also like that Cally doesn't like the idea of two men killing each other as entertainment.

What is a name like Vinni doing in a show like this? either way, he's kind of handsome or cute.

Servalan is supposed to make sure everyone sticks to the rules and plays fair! Hilarious. Avon's sick friend ("And let's face it any friend of Avon's gotta be sick" "how's your friend?" "sick as ever."Wink...and any scene between Avon and Servalan's got to be riveting? Right? YES!

Love Avon's question to Tarrant about cheating and lying to which Tarrant responds that he has no compunction about doing either but as it turns out he won't shoot even an android in the back ("Shoot it--it's a machine."Wink.

We also get a rare shot of Avon from inside Orac, a kind of POV from Orac's table or insides. This might be the only time. Orac is wonderful.

The end lines are funny. Max shaking Avon's hand is funny and Avon's reaction to it: has no one ever shaken his hand in thanks before? It would seem so.

The plot is nothing new. In 1970 a tv movie had Darren McGavin (of the excellent Night Stalker tv movies and even better tv series) on an island where he would fight another soldier to the death (not sure why? Left over from WW2 or because it was the future and war would be avoided as here). Earlier than that LOST IN SPACE-THE GOLDEN MAN had two alien beings fight it out on a planet rather than have full scale war as here. In addition the computer thing sort of seems like an early holodeck (Next Generation) or a copy from the Trek cartoon (where the holodecks were first introduced) and the computer images seem to be very like Tron...without the great visuals. The android shooting also recalls WESTWORLD (and its sequel and tv series). In any case, the story is entertaining enough and fast paced and all the bits and pieces fall together for me.

I was worried I would not like this episode as much as I used to. Well, I was right. I like it better. It's the best B7 episode, fast paced, involving, action oriented, and with the best dialog and characters. Yes, it's not a Fed episode and not really an alien episode but maybe I like it more because of that. And Avon smiles ...a lot and also...leads. Servalan's just nasty and somewhat sexy at the same time. Jackie's just awesome, too.


TERMINAL
I’ve avoided this episode for many years. It’s just so grim, so sad and then there’s that darned heart beat sound that starts some 15 minutes in or so and goes on for 38 minutes, admittedly intermittently, but it is…well, annoying. I do like this episode but it has flaws as so many of them do: why not structure the scenes to keep the idea that Avon’s being manipulated and dreaming a secret for as long as possible? They don’t. Why doesn’t Servalan remember Orac and the key (glad she didn’t though)? Why doesn’t the biatch recognize right away that something is wrong with Liberator? Why won’t Avon just fly around the mess in space? Didn’t anyone see the mess when the Federation lackeys boarded?

The scientists, for some reason, dress like the blond idiots from the awful MEGLOS in DW and also remind me of the VILLAGE OF THE and CHILDREN OF THE DAMNED and the UFO Moonbase ladies. The men look ridiculous. The Links are actually quite scary and well done and are glimpsed in the face only briefly. They’re effective. I don’t know why Cally and Tarrant couldn’t have saved the two attacked blond ones outside…but should they have? Not really. Which brings me to the theme: everyone here is just…plain wrong…except for Vila of course. Vila…if listened to…we’d not have a series…he always errs on the side of caution (“With me around, who needs computers?” and Cally nods her head in agreement). Avon’s wrong, Servalan’s wrong, Tarrant’s wrong (love the scene where Avon pulls a gun on him), and I’m sure there’s more.

The sad thing is: ZEN’s death. Vila’s talking to him is actually touching (“He referred to himself as I. All this time he’s never referred to himself.”). I actually had a tear in my eye. I love Zen and hope that somehow he can return (but from what Big Finish’s people in charge of B7 say it’s not going to happen). I also feel as if he had feelings the entire time and intellect (“I have failed you.”)---not that anyone but Vila and Dayna will know (unless they tell the others later and off screen). I also love that Vila saves Orac, faking that it’s just a hunk of junk he built, a bit of art, the value of which is only to him. He just always makes me laugh even in this grim circumstance. Maybe the enzyme can make things reappear? In any case, I hoped Servalan was dead but she isn’t. In fact, Jackie’s done a FANTASTIC job in every story really and she appears briefly but memorably here. Her presence in season four is welcome but the character is so evil….I really thought Blake would be dead for good here, almost everyone else in B7 never returns to life. Or maybe Blake IS dead and the Blake that returns in BLAKE is not him but a clone or machine of some kind. It has been done on the show before---doubles, clones, machines that look like people.

The Liberator blowing up is hard to watch. One thing: did the crew live on the ship the entire time they had it? They must have, right?

In any case, this episode is surprising and the last we see of Cally (walking away, looking miffed and/or sad). The planet is well done as are the sets, again. It was nice to see “Blake” again even if it was not him and the dialog is once again, sterling. A good episode but still hard to watch and not because of the heart beat tension sounds but because of Zen’s death and the destruction of the Liberator. AND…was Avon just going to find Blake because he wanted Blake’s supposed device that would make them invincible or was he just very Blake centered---and maybe needed Blake alive to believe in someone or something. His face when Servalan tells him Blake is dead (would you believe her, even then?) was priceless. Paul does a great job in this entire episode and I love his speech about him not needed any of them and how he would kill anyone who follows him (Vila: I got the distinct impression he wanted to be alone). And Tarrant hugs Vila, “We can’t always have what we want.” Vila, “I had noticed.” Not sure what that exchange meant but there you go.

Again, a very good episode to end on… and quite unexpected to have everyone stranded and the Liberator and Zen die!

Rescue
I used to think season four was pretty good. Well, maybe the rest of it is because this episode, RESCUE, is the worst B7 episode ever. It’s worse than THE KEEPER. First of all, why did Avon, if he even suspected that the living quarters was booby trapped, leave and wait so long to warn the others? Why not tell everyone as they were walking out in TERMINAL? Did Servalan even have time to booby trap HER OWN LIVING QUARTERS? And everyone had time to change clothes I think. The plant worm monsters look okay. The explosions are nice. Dorian saves Dayna and Vila and then they allow Avon to treat him like dirt. Avon was always looking for potential allies and now…he’s got one so he treats him badly. Avon as total cold with a heart of stone? I don’t buy it this early into season four. Avon says he goes back for Orac and not Cally…a bit cold but did he? Did he mean it? Cally calls, “Blake” instead of “Avon.” Interesting. Maybe the only interesting thing about this. Vila saves Tarrant before Cally (?) but would he have done this? He also hesitates, returns, looks in, seems to know that there is an explosion imminent…or maybe he saw a flash? He dives.

Once they get off the planet things get worse. Dorian hits his head. Slave doesn’t really get much to do. Vila drinks in any situation, even dangerous ones as later on, Avon is about to be killed. Vila knows it and just seems to give up. There’s little to no tension at all. Dayna goes down into a pit room knowing there is a door that can close behind her. Tarrant lets her and leaves her and then worries where she is. Tarrant is played as an old man off Dayna’s tough young lady…he’s also tired from some steps. Dayna, later on, when found, is so afraid, she takes on the subservient role of lunging into Tarrant’s arms and being afraid…all to show us that the Liberator crew care for each other. Also: maybe I’m thick but where did the base come from? Who built it? The Sea Devil faced monster? Who was that? The partner? Another victim? Who was who? What was happening? Was the dead shirtless or near shirtless youth the real Dorian? Was Dorian the monster? Yes, this is like Dorian Gray only without any real rules or explanations. The sets are nice but not as good as Liberator. AND we get an endless scene of Scorpio landing---nice models and model work but it’s really quite dull. One thing I liked about B7 in the past is that they didn’t really waste a lot of time on this. Here we get filler and filler. And filler. The direction is poor, the acting…sub par. Over the top Dorian death. Lots of pounding on about Avon’s character. Avon takes the shower and Soolin gets the magazine out of his gun.

The crew and Dorian. What? Dorian is a threat, then he invites them to a shower and sleep. They do. Then he’s a menace again. Soolin knew nothing about this? In any case, this episode is a huge mess. You can see that it might have worked with better writing and better direction but here…it just doesn’t. And almost everyone acts out of character …some of the time. Not a good start to season four.
 
Gauda Cheese
Fractures

or

(Well I don't wanna spoil anything, Alternative title is posted elsewhere)


Okay because this one is so recent I put this in the Fractures spoiler thread. http://www.blakes...#post_3227

Without giving anything away, Michelle loved it.
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