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Paul Darrow tribute rewatch - Rumours Of Death
sweevo
Mrs_Underhill wrote:

Here's the crucial difference from Terminal, right there.
Here Avon takes the crew with him, he trusts them to get him through it.
In Terminal he forces them to stay behind. The difference in outcomes is staggering.


This episode marks the beginning of Avon's decline into paranoia and bitterness (and insanity, if you want to go that far) - his "Phantom Pain", if you like (let's see if anyone gets that joke).
 
trevor travis
Avon using the interrogation technique patented by Blake...
 
Mrs_Underhill
But Tarrant's combat training and practicality is really excellent.
The way he handles Avon as a shell-shocked fellow soldier, the way he snaps Avon back to reality - that's great to watch.
 
trevor travis
Oh, the cellar scene...
 
Mrs_Underhill
OMG Avon and Servalan!!!
One might say it's their shippiest episode.
 
trevor travis
Mrs_Underhill wrote:

OMG Avon and Servalan!!!
One might say it's their shippiest episode.


Nah, that's Aftermath and ended up with him throwing her to the floor.
 
BradPaula
trevor travis wrote:

Oh, the cellar scene...


Anyone want to wager if there is a Sea Devil skulking about in THIS cellar?
Zil: Oneness must resist the Host.
 
trevor travis
Uh-oh... not down there, Anna/Sula/Fred.
 
sweevo
Fred? Who the hell is Fred?
 
stormypetrel
Mrs_Underhill wrote:

OMG Avon and Servalan!!!
One might say it's their shippiest episode.

Perhaps he too (probably unconsciously) sees a similarity between Anna and Servalan in some respects?
 
Mrs_Underhill
sweevo wrote:

Mrs_Underhill wrote:

Here's the crucial difference from Terminal, right there.
Here Avon takes the crew with him, he trusts them to get him through it.
In Terminal he forces them to stay behind. The difference in outcomes is staggering.


This episode marks the beginning of Avon's decline into paranoia and bitterness (and insanity, if you want to go that far) - his "Phantom Pain", if you like (let's see if anyone gets that joke).

I used to think that at first, but actually the next stretch of episodes presents Avon at his most gentlest, open and trusting of his crew. I'd even say - at his most stable and happiest. Terminal messages bust it all to hell.
But RoD acted like a lance to cut Anna's poison out, in a way. See Sarcophagus and what he does with Cally, coming next.
 
BradPaula
sweevo wrote:

Fred? Who the hell is Fred?


The Sea Devil!
Zil: Oneness must resist the Host.
 
sweevo
Ah.
 
BradPaula
Mrs_Underhill wrote:

sweevo wrote:

Mrs_Underhill wrote:

Here's the crucial difference from Terminal, right there.
Here Avon takes the crew with him, he trusts them to get him through it.
In Terminal he forces them to stay behind. The difference in outcomes is staggering.


This episode marks the beginning of Avon's decline into paranoia and bitterness (and insanity, if you want to go that far) - his "Phantom Pain", if you like (let's see if anyone gets that joke).

I used to think that at first, but actually the next stretch of episodes presents Avon at his most gentlest, open and trusting of his crew. I'd even say - at his most stable and happiest. Terminal messages bust it all to hell.
But RoD acted like a lance to cut Anna's poison out, in a way. See Sarcophagus and what he does with Cally, coming next.


That is so true.
Zil: Oneness must resist the Host.
 
Mrs_Underhill
trevor travis wrote:

Mrs_Underhill wrote:

OMG Avon and Servalan!!!
One might say it's their shippiest episode.


Nah, that's Aftermath and ended up with him throwing her to the floor.

But she's caressing him with a gun though...
 
trevor travis
Mrs_Underhill wrote:

sweevo wrote:

Mrs_Underhill wrote:

Here's the crucial difference from Terminal, right there.
Here Avon takes the crew with him, he trusts them to get him through it.
In Terminal he forces them to stay behind. The difference in outcomes is staggering.


This episode marks the beginning of Avon's decline into paranoia and bitterness (and insanity, if you want to go that far) - his "Phantom Pain", if you like (let's see if anyone gets that joke).

I used to think that at first, but actually the next stretch of episodes presents Avon at his most gentlest, open and trusting of his crew. I'd even say - at his most stable and happiest. Terminal messages bust it all to hell.
But RoD acted like a lance to cut Anna's poison out, in a way. See Sarcophagus and what he does with Cally, coming next.


That's true. He's really happy around the crew in Death-Watch.

It's Terminal that leads to his change in mood, not this.

The death of Cally seems to affect him more than the death of Anna.
Edited by trevor travis on 05 June 2019 20:31:30
 
stormypetrel
Oh, dear. Avonís twigged on.
 
BradPaula
Mrs_Underhill wrote:

trevor travis wrote:

Mrs_Underhill wrote:

OMG Avon and Servalan!!!
One might say it's their shippiest episode.


Nah, that's Aftermath and ended up with him throwing her to the floor.

But she's caressing him with a gun though...


The one, the only Jacqueline Pearce, people!!
Zil: Oneness must resist the Host.
 
trevor travis
Paul is SO good here, as Avon works it out! Those eyes!
 
BradPaula
trevor travis wrote:

Paul is SO good here, as Avon works it out! Those eyes!


!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Zil: Oneness must resist the Host.
 
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