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Hostage Blake's uncle question
daro2096
Blake's uncle: Is Ushton his first name? Because he is Blake's father's brother. His name should be Ushton Blake and his daughter Inga Blake, yes?

So why does Travis call him Ushton?
 
winnie-l
There has been a lot of speculation over the years. Some previous, by others, from my archive files:

If they are following the pattern of English schools, then what happens when a family has more than one son? Is the eldest called by the last name and the rest by their firsts? That could explain why Blake's father's brother is called Ushton rather than Blake.
(although IMHO Ushton is an odd first name!)

.Blake's uncle Ushton however, is his father's brother, and hence should have been called "Blake" (= his last name)... perhaps close family use the given name, which is fine for Blake himself (he's close family so can call Ushton Blake "Ushton") but why should Travis call him Ushton? (Travis is not close family!) Unless Travis despised him and deliberately used this way of naming him.
HMMM! So by calling Ushton Blake "Ushton", Travis is defying social protocol - Travis has no "right" to name the man by his first name... HMMMM

There are several possibilities (aside from the obvious confusion of having two characters with the same name):

1. Only eldest sons are called by the surname, at least when they're together
-- this would cover Deeta and Del both being called Tarrant.

1A. Ushton is a younger brother.
1B. Blake's father was the younger son and Blake was his first name but became our Blake's last name (Erik the Red, Lief Erikson, that sort of thing). [!]

2. Ushton and Blake's father had different fathers but the same mother.
2A. She remarried and women still take their husband's last name.
2B. She was only married to one but the other still got his own father's name
2C. She wasn't married to either... (we know marriage is still around, the question is what are the rules) but children take their father's last name regardless of their parents' marital status. Dayna has her father's last name, whatever that means.
Inga Ushton?

3. Ushton or Blake's father adopted an alias.

4. There is some additional meaning to the word brother in their time that we aren't getting. Blood brothers? Some sort of social connection that has nothing to do with family ties.


All interesting ideas....
 
daro2096
So it could be Blake's grand mother remarried and had a boy called Ushton? So Ushton could be his surname. But then why would Blake call his uncle by his last name when Ushton calls Blake Roj? Surely he would call him by his first name not family name? So we come back to why Travis calls him Ushton? Does Ushton prefer being called Ushton or is Travis being insulting?
 
Hugbot
More questions:
Why does Blake always refer to Ushton as his 'father's brother' instead of simply his 'uncle'?
And does this make Arnold Rimmer his cousin?
 
daro2096
Maybes the word 'uncle' has fallen out of general use by the 29th century or whenever the series is set in?
 
JustBrad
daro2096 wrote:

Maybes the word 'uncle' has fallen out of general use by the 29th century or whenever the seies is set in?


Vila uses Uncle in this episode
 
trevor travis
Who's to say that the convention regarding surnames has survived by the time of Blake's 7?

After all, Avon's brother calls him Avon, suggesting they have different surnames. Clearly things have changed a little.
 
daro2096
JustBrad wrote:

daro2096 wrote:

Maybes the word 'uncle' has fallen out of general use by the 29th century or whenever the seies is set in?


Vila uses Uncle in this episode


Could be the word is still being used in the circles Vila grew up in whereas those higher up in society, the alpha grades no longer use the word. Just reaching here.
 
rojkerr1
Poor Duncan Lamont, he was nearly the Uncle, had a few rehearsals by all acccounts
 
Joe Dredd
JustBrad wrote:

daro2096 wrote:

Maybes the word 'uncle' has fallen out of general use by the 29th century or whenever the seies is set in?


Vila uses Uncle in this episode


Vila probably had a lot of experience crying Uncle in his childhood.

Uncle! Uncle! UNCLE!
 
trevor travis
JustBrad wrote:

daro2096 wrote:

Maybes the word 'uncle' has fallen out of general use by the 29th century or whenever the seies is set in?


Vila uses Uncle in this episode


Maybe it's a class thing. Vila still uses uncle, but an alpha grade such as Blake with his privileged background doesn't use that word anymore.
 
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