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Fan Zines & Fan Clubs in the 80's
littlesue
Whilst going through my B7 box and getting things sorted for the little get together in April, I have been putting my small collection of Fan Club newsletters and Zines in order.
Each of them contains info about B7, reviews of plays, discussion on episodes and characters (much the same as we are still doing now on the Horizon Forum!)
There are also poems and short stories or even ongoing epics…and this was in the 80’s before the internet, and a rewatch involved me getting on a train from New Milton, with 2 small daughters, and travelling to Cosham (changing at Southampton Central) and meeting Sylvie and then going on to her house for Videos, sherry and snacks.
Anyway, here is what I have found so far in the box;
Liberator Popular Front: Run by Jill McCaul, Anne Lewis, Anne Harding and Alex Delicado.
An introductory Newsletter Postmarked 4th Nov 1981; Newsletter no. 7, 9, 10, 11, 12, 13, 14, 15, 16, 17 (All A4 format) and then in A5; 18, 19, 20, 21, 22, 23, 24.
Orbit Fanzine, published by the LPF and edited by Audrey Waller and Sue Walker. Issue 1 was A4 and thereafter A5 right through to Issue 10.
SLAVE: published by Alex Delicado.
Issue 1, 2, 3, 4 and 5 (all A4pub.) then Issue 5 and 6(both A5 pubs.)
AVON: (published by Ann Bown and Jackie Willmott).
Newsletter 18, 19, 20, 21, 22, 23, 24, 25.
Vilaworld Newsletter no. 22 and 23. (Run by Yvette Clarke)
Interface 10 (A Fanzine) published by Vilaworld.
Critical Mass (A Review of Media Fanzines) 4, 5, 6, 7.
Oracle (A fan club run by Susan King) Issues I to 4 (all A4)
Page the Oracle, published by Susan King et al, Issue one, which then became Oracle in Issue 2 and then by Issue 3 was The Voice of Oracle through to Issue 8.
Aftermath Zine Published by Ally Fiddy and Bridget Woolven.
And another Zine also called Aftermath, by the same two ladies, but running to 2 issues. (All A4)
Oh yes, and a small collection of Horizon NLs

Do any other 'slightly older' fans have copies of the old newsletters and/or Fanzines?
Or have, as I suspect, a great many been consigned to the recycling bin???
Cold.....you don't know the meaning of cold.
Cold is when you have ice on the INSIDE of the window!!!


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sues youtube channel http://www.youtub...e54/videos
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BradPaula
I've got all the Horizon newsletters from 1987 to the end. I also have perhaps 50 fan zines but it may take a bit of time to compile a listing of them. And Gods forbid anyone consigned the zines to the compost pile. Just because everything is via computers now, does not mean the old zines aren't still treasured. Grin -Paula
Zil: Oneness must resist the Host.
 
littlesue
BradPaula wrote:

I've got all the Horizon newsletters from 1987 to the end. I also have perhaps 50 fan zines but it may take a bit of time to compile a listing of them. And Gods forbid anyone consigned the zines to the compost pile. Just because everything is via computers now, does not mean the old zines aren't still treasured. Grin -Paula


I think the problem is when a fan passes on; for instance, my friend Linda Short. I don't know what became of her collection. I have got her first tape of songs up on Media Fire (I'll get Sarah to redo the link) and I also have her second tape which has to be recorded off of another cassette. Methinks we will have to scan our collections and put them into an online storage so some of the younger fans can access them and see what us oldies were up to back then when it all kicked off!
Cold.....you don't know the meaning of cold.
Cold is when you have ice on the INSIDE of the window!!!


sues stories http://sjlittle.w...
sues youtube channel http://www.youtub...e54/videos
sues book shelf https://www.media...ne%20Shelf
rebel run video http://www.youtub...prqS-XZtLo
Lara and Sue's Stories http://lectorisal....webs.com/
 
Henry Eggleton
There was also Freedom Party Service for whom I made a number of novelettes of the original episodes
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Joe Dredd
littlesue wrote:
I think the problem is when a fan passes on; for instance, my friend Linda Short. I don't know what became of her collection. I have got her first tape of songs up on Media Fire (I'll get Sarah to redo the link) and I also have her second tape which has to be recorded off of another cassette. Methinks we will have to scan our collections and put them into an online storage so some of the younger fans can access them and see what us oldies were up to back then when it all kicked off!


It's a real dilemma, isn't it? I've got three large plastic tubs packed to the gills with B7 zines and newsletters. There's a wealth of entertainment and insight amongst it all and it would be lovely to share it but it's all copyright to the creators. I'm sure a lot of them wouldn't mind it being shared but there is no way to confirm it. Then, as you say, there is the situation where the person has passed away. The very kind Kathy Hanson for example edited "Down & Unsafe", a brilliant B7 zine from NZ. D&U included stories by many different contributors but also by Kathy herself. Sadly Kathy passed away some years ago now. I couldn't imagine contacting her family to ask permission to reprint her stories, but just like any other favourite story I'd love to be able to recommend them to others and hear what they thought of them.

I hope if I passed away my family would allow my stories to be uploaded for others to enjoy, but not being fans I don't know that they would even think of it.
 
BradPaula
littlesue wrote:

BradPaula wrote:

I've got all the Horizon newsletters from 1987 to the end. I also have perhaps 50 fan zines but it may take a bit of time to compile a listing of them. And Gods forbid anyone consigned the zines to the compost pile. Just because everything is via computers now, does not mean the old zines aren't still treasured. Grin -Paula


I think the problem is when a fan passes on; for instance, my friend Linda Short. I don't know what became of her collection. I have got her first tape of songs up on Media Fire (I'll get Sarah to redo the link) and I also have her second tape which has to be recorded off of another cassette. Methinks we will have to scan our collections and put them into an online storage so some of the younger fans can access them and see what us oldies were up to back then when it all kicked off!


I think that is a good idea. I've had younger fans and newer fans ask about the 'old days' of fandom and specifically about fan zines and Horizon's newsletters and zines. There are quite a number of classic stories out there which should be preserved by any means necessary. Good luck. -Paula
Zil: Oneness must resist the Host.
 
littlesue
Joe Dredd wrote:

littlesue wrote:
I think the problem is when a fan passes on; for instance, my friend Linda Short. I don't know what became of her collection. I have got her first tape of songs up on Media Fire (I'll get Sarah to redo the link) and I also have her second tape which has to be recorded off of another cassette. Methinks we will have to scan our collections and put them into an online storage so some of the younger fans can access them and see what us oldies were up to back then when it all kicked off!


It's a real dilemma, isn't it? I've got three large plastic tubs packed to the gills with B7 zines and newsletters. There's a wealth of entertainment and insight amongst it all and it would be lovely to share it but it's all copyright to the creators. I'm sure a lot of them wouldn't mind it being shared but there is no way to confirm it. Then, as you say, there is the situation where the person has passed away. The very kind Kathy Hanson for example edited "Down & Unsafe", a brilliant B7 zine from NZ. D&U included stories by many different contributors but also by Kathy herself. Sadly Kathy passed away some years ago now. I couldn't imagine contacting her family to ask permission to reprint her stories, but just like any other favourite story I'd love to be able to recommend them to others and hear what they thought of them.

I hope if I passed away my family would allow my stories to be uploaded for others to enjoy, but not being fans I don't know that they would even think of it.


There is one way to ensure that they don't throw the lot away...put it in your will.
All my Family Tree stuff is destined to the Society of Genealogists in London when the time comes...it's in my will. I think I may also add my B7 stuff to be distributed and not dumped! (I have threatened to come back and haunt my two if they just throw away my different collections!)
What would be ideal is a central place all this stuff could be stored and looked after...a museum of sorts. I know that would be almost impossible, but that would be great. As it is, I think I shall start scanning all my stuff (as it is beginning to fade) and locate it up in the 'cloud' so that if, god forbid, we have a fire, at least I have a virtual copy of all my zines etc.
Cold.....you don't know the meaning of cold.
Cold is when you have ice on the INSIDE of the window!!!


sues stories http://sjlittle.w...
sues youtube channel http://www.youtub...e54/videos
sues book shelf https://www.media...ne%20Shelf
rebel run video http://www.youtub...prqS-XZtLo
Lara and Sue's Stories http://lectorisal....webs.com/
 
Travisina
littlesue wrote:


What would be ideal is a central place all this stuff could be stored and looked after...a museum of sorts. I know that would be almost impossible, but that would be great. As it is, I think I shall start scanning all my stuff (as it is beginning to fade) and locate it up in the 'cloud' so that if, god forbid, we have a fire, at least I have a virtual copy of all my zines etc.


This is something that him indoors and I discuss from time to time. A museum for fan collections is on our list of 'things to do when we win the lottery' - slightly negated by the fact that we no longer buy lottery tickets!
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Supreme Commander
Littlesue - your collection of early fanzines & newsletters is very similar to mine - in those long-ago days I bought everything I could lay my hands on, as well as helping to produce Horizon's own newsletters and fanzines of course.

Joe Dredd - probably my own fault for not publicising it more widely, but the lovely and much missed Kathy Hanson didn't want her work to disappear with her and in fact left Horizon all her publications to continue to make them available to fans along with Horizon's own.

There is a list of all fanzines available that I still have in stock and can email to anyone interested. I have been meaning to upload the listings onto the website but there never seem to be enough hours in the day, nevertheless the actual list - which includes Horizon fanzines and non-fiction, plus back issues of all the club's printed newsletters, all Kathy's Down & Unsafe zines and Seventh Sector and an assortment of other independent zines whose publishers have given them over to Horizon.

Methods of printing have obviously greatly improved since the early days of fandom, but the quality of much of the writing and artwork has certainly stood the test of time.
 
littlesue
Travisina wrote:

littlesue wrote:


What would be ideal is a central place all this stuff could be stored and looked after...a museum of sorts. I know that would be almost impossible, but that would be great. As it is, I think I shall start scanning all my stuff (as it is beginning to fade) and locate it up in the 'cloud' so that if, god forbid, we have a fire, at least I have a virtual copy of all my zines etc.


This is something that him indoors and I discuss from time to time. A museum for fan collections is on our list of 'things to do when we win the lottery' - slightly negated by the fact that we no longer buy lottery tickets!


Yes, when we win the lottery is also much said in our house. I've even got a Premium Bond from back in the 50'...guess what? It's never been drawn. I think the number is so old ERNIE doesn't know about it!!!!
Cold.....you don't know the meaning of cold.
Cold is when you have ice on the INSIDE of the window!!!


sues stories http://sjlittle.w...
sues youtube channel http://www.youtub...e54/videos
sues book shelf https://www.media...ne%20Shelf
rebel run video http://www.youtub...prqS-XZtLo
Lara and Sue's Stories http://lectorisal....webs.com/
 
littlesue
Supreme Commander wrote:

Littlesue - your collection of early fanzines & newsletters is very similar to mine - in those long-ago days I bought everything I could lay my hands on, as well as helping to produce Horizon's own newsletters and fanzines of course.

Joe Dredd - probably my own fault for not publicising it more widely, but the lovely and much missed Kathy Hanson didn't want her work to disappear with her and in fact left Horizon all her publications to continue to make them available to fans along with Horizon's own.

There is a list of all fanzines available that I still have in stock and can email to anyone interested. I have been meaning to upload the listings onto the website but there never seem to be enough hours in the day, nevertheless the actual list - which includes Horizon fanzines and non-fiction, plus back issues of all the club's printed newsletters, all Kathy's Down & Unsafe zines and Seventh Sector and an assortment of other independent zines whose publishers have given them over to Horizon.

Methods of printing have obviously greatly improved since the early days of fandom, but the quality of much of the writing and artwork has certainly stood the test of time.


You are so right; there are so many good things in these zines. Meanwhile, I shall manfully continue my scanningSmile
Cold.....you don't know the meaning of cold.
Cold is when you have ice on the INSIDE of the window!!!


sues stories http://sjlittle.w...
sues youtube channel http://www.youtub...e54/videos
sues book shelf https://www.media...ne%20Shelf
rebel run video http://www.youtub...prqS-XZtLo
Lara and Sue's Stories http://lectorisal....webs.com/
 
guiser
I've got a lot of B7 fanzines that I bought in the last few years and when I found out that Americans were donating their scifi fanzine collections to special archives in American universities, I tried to look into this in the U.K. However, though I found places with zine collections, I didn't turn up a place with a specific scifi fanzine collection. I must admit that since this is not a pressing issue for me, I didn't try too hard. However, I did find out that the British Library and the Scottish National Library have general fanzine collections and the National Library of Australia has an actual scifi fanzine collection.

As far as fanfic is concerned, I'm starting to think that it would be a nice idea for people to add a permission to their fanfic, that on their demise (or even before their demise, if they want!), anyone and everyone can copy and reproduce any of their fanfic at will, so long as they make no profit from it and acknowledge the original creator. In any case, I think copyright on fanfic is only morally binding, not legally binding, since it is itself on the fringes of legality.
 
Obsidian
The National Library of Australia certainly has all the B7 fanzines published here locally.
Then there are always those of us who've come newly to the fandom busily buying up everything we can get our hands on to fill in all the fun we missed out on over the years. If I could afford it, I'd happily take over collections. Otherwise, it would be excellent to see what people have collected. Think this means a trip to the UK sometime soon to join in on some of the activities...
Don't philosophise at me you electronic moron!GrinFrown
 
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littlesue
Just for those overseas, this is a taste of what happened in a small village called Hanslope in July 2012, when Mat Irvine invited a few friends to attend his Model Show called Smallspace!!!
http://www.youtub...pE53PeFl7Y
Cold.....you don't know the meaning of cold.
Cold is when you have ice on the INSIDE of the window!!!


sues stories http://sjlittle.w...
sues youtube channel http://www.youtub...e54/videos
sues book shelf https://www.media...ne%20Shelf
rebel run video http://www.youtub...prqS-XZtLo
Lara and Sue's Stories http://lectorisal....webs.com/
 
pam47
Iwas a member of Liberator Popular Front from August 1980 and also joined Villaworld and Oracle. Have my newsletters in a cupboard - all this nostalgia - I will have to find them and read them again.
 
littlesue
pam47 wrote:

Iwas a member of Liberator Popular Front from August 1980 and also joined Villaworld and Oracle. Have my newsletters in a cupboard - all this nostalgia - I will have to find them and read them again.


I. too, have those newsletters. Well some anyway.
Did you go to the VIlaworld Convention held in a church hall, I think, in Shirley, Southampton? If you did, you and I must have met at one time!!!
Cold.....you don't know the meaning of cold.
Cold is when you have ice on the INSIDE of the window!!!


sues stories http://sjlittle.w...
sues youtube channel http://www.youtub...e54/videos
sues book shelf https://www.media...ne%20Shelf
rebel run video http://www.youtub...prqS-XZtLo
Lara and Sue's Stories http://lectorisal....webs.com/
 
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