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How did you feel when Blake died?
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Posted on 26-07-2010 15:30
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Yes, as I said, I didn't get to see the episode without already knowing what had happened but I still approached it with trepidation. I need not have bothered to brace myself because I thoroughly enjoyed the episode. However, once appreciated, the kid in me again takes dominance and I'd only ever watch that particular episode if I was in an exceptionally smug mood.

I like the 'lost youth' example but, with me, I like to think I can hold on to parts of it, even if it's through an adult filter. Blake and crew are still out there fighting the federation, it's just that, in one particular universe, GT got itchy feet and Chris Boucher wanted an edgier programme.
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major trauma - innocence lost...

I started watching B7 as a kid in primary school re enacting scenes in the playground with my friends - just a great space adventure. Developed my first (and never ending) crush on Avon - last epsisode - very young teenager in the middle of my parent's divorce - talk about rite of passage...
 
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I was prepared for and dealt with Blake's death. I was stunned by Vila's, and twenty five years later* I'm still in a state of denial over Jenna's.

*First saw it in 85. - B
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BradPaula wrote:
I was prepared for and dealt with Blake's death. I was stunned by Vila's, and twenty five years later* I'm still in a state of denial over Jenna's.

*First saw it in 85. - B

Jenna's not dead!! Wink Blake just made that story up to protect her. Grin There's noone freer than a dead man/woman you know.
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I've been holding on to that for 25 years, though I think Blake truly believes she is dead.

I remember an old Horizon fanfic in which the wise woman of the village tells a story about a hero remarkably similar to Blake. At the end you realize she is wearing a Liberator teleport bracelet: Jenna, 50 years on. -B
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They all survive, it's not like anyone ever had complete artistic control. Villa was a different person in one version and was killed fairly early in another. hell - Jenna was even a brunette at one stage. Tarrant
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Regardless of how much I was traumatised at the time, I still think it's one of the best endings *ever* to *any* TV show.

It was the perfect ending to B7.
Could it really have ended any other way?
 
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I'm with you there, Leyos. Tragic, but very memorable.
 
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Leyos wrote:
Regardless of how much I was traumatised at the time, I still think it's one of the best endings *ever* to *any* TV show.

It was the perfect ending to B7.
Could it really have ended any other way?


Yes it could have, there were other considerations. My appreciation for the episode has little to do with the body count of regular characters, however, it begs the question as to whether the makers of the show already knew something when Avon said something like "I always thought that his death and mine might be linked in some way" in 'Terminal'.
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Web wrote:
.... it begs the question as to whether the makers of the show already knew something when Avon said something like "I always thought that his death and mine might be linked in some way" in 'Terminal'.


Maybe you're right, but that's not the only episode when there appears to be a foreshadowing of their deaths ... and I say 'appears' because most of the time it's the viewer with the benefit of hindsight who's reading too much into it.

I seem to remember that Terry Nation had no idea that they were all going to be killed off, so he certainly wouldn't have deliberately written it into the script for Terminal. Also, at the time that Terminal was broadcast the cast had no idea that there was even going to be a S4, so it could only have been after that point that GT was approached to do S4 and asked to be killed off.
So while it's possible that Chris Boucher had already planned it while script-editing Terminal, I'd say that it was unlikely.
 
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I momentarily forgot that 'Terminal' was written by TN.

I'm pretty much a Nation purist when it comes to B7. If his original idea for Villa was true, then why did the character turn out so different when all of the first season was Nation's work? Are the character guidelines somebody else's work or did they just feel that Michael Keating's casting suited a different interpretation? I ask because I'm guessing that Nation didn't completely approve and wanted him killed off. That's not to say that I agree, given Keating's performance.

I'm getting a bit OT and starting to ramble but if B7 had have stayed true to the original vision then there most likely would have been an extra character and more room for a coward. If the show was to be remade then I think it would be good form to reinstate that 'seventh' character.
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Leyos wrote:
Also, at the time that Terminal was broadcast the cast had no idea that there was even going to be a S4, so it could only have been after that point that GT was approached to do S4 and asked to be killed off.
So while it's possible that Chris Boucher had already planned it while script-editing Terminal, I'd say that it was unlikely.


I remember talking to Paul at a Convention. The subject of Gareth's return came up with the condition that the character be killed off once and for all. The question was asked, "Who is going to shoot Blake?"

They may have been looking for a villain, but Paul immediately volunteered, "I'll do it." Chris Boucher was at the meeting and the final script took shape from there.
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