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| Lurena |
Posted on 08-09-2009 11:35
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He can't be ignored! Post your thoughts, discussion and photo's here in his personal corner! 
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| christine scheir |
Posted on 08-09-2009 12:12
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Ignoring him would be pointless..with a smile like his... |
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| Spike Ombre |
Posted on 08-09-2009 12:21
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he's a bit of a man of contradiction isn't he our avon. always boasting how he doesn't need anyone else and doesn't trust anybody, whilst frequently relying on the crew to get him out of scrapes 
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| Lurena |
Posted on 08-09-2009 15:41
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Spike Ombre wrote: he's a bit of a man of contradiction isn't he our avon. always boasting how he doesn't need anyone else and doesn't trust anybody, whilst frequently relying on the crew to get him out of scrapes A pity we lost the list of Avon's characteristics with the old forum...... Shall we rebuild it here? .....I want to tell, but I can't.....  ...I promised.... |
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| Henry Eggleton |
Posted on 08-09-2009 16:34
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Those who ignored him ended up very dead I understand |
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| Lurena |
Posted on 08-09-2009 21:25
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Come on, I see it's full of Avon addicts here! You don't have to be afraid to get shot in the back by posting in his thread.....  .....I want to tell, but I can't..... ...I promised.... |
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| kalinda001 |
Posted on 08-09-2009 21:53
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Spike Ombre wrote: he's a bit of a man of contradiction isn't he our avon. always boasting how he doesn't need anyone else and doesn't trust anybody, whilst frequently relying on the crew to get him out of scrapes Isn't that backwards? It's the crew who constantly needed Avon to get them out of scrapes that Blake put them into. Rarely was it the other way around. Edited by kalinda001 on 08-09-2009 21:55 |
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| Lurena |
Posted on 08-09-2009 21:57
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kalinda001 wrote: Spike Ombre wrote: he's a bit of a man of contradiction isn't he our avon. always boasting how he doesn't need anyone else and doesn't trust anybody, whilst frequently relying on the crew to get him out of scrapes Isn't that backwards? It's the crew who constantly needed Avon to get them out of scrapes that Blake put them into. Very rarely was it the other way around. It wasn't always Blake's action that put the crew into trouble, was it? I recall Avon had to rescue them from outerspace intervention and alike. .....I want to tell, but I can't..... ...I promised.... |
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| Clonemaster |
Posted on 08-09-2009 21:59
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christine scheir wrote: Ignoring him would be pointless..with a smile like his... A smile that this latest from the dormouse..... http://www.youtub...4e_cAdQUAs |
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| Lurena |
Posted on 08-09-2009 22:03
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Clonemaster wrote: christine scheir wrote: Ignoring him would be pointless..with a smile like his... A smile that this latest from the dormouse..... http://www.youtub...As[/quote] Hi Clonemaster! Happy to see you here! You made that vid I had planned to make! I love it ! (I love HIM) Thank you! .....I want to tell, but I can't..... ...I promised.... |
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| kalinda001 |
Posted on 08-09-2009 22:04
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Lurena wrote: kalinda001 wrote: Spike Ombre wrote: he's a bit of a man of contradiction isn't he our avon. always boasting how he doesn't need anyone else and doesn't trust anybody, whilst frequently relying on the crew to get him out of scrapes Isn't that backwards? It's the crew who constantly needed Avon to get them out of scrapes that Blake put them into. Very rarely was it the other way around. It wasn't always Blake's action that put the crew into trouble, was it? I recall Avon had to rescue them from outerspace intervention and alike. True, not always. They all had to deal with the normal intergalactic anamalies and aliens from time to time. |
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| president solvite |
Posted on 08-09-2009 22:10
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At least 25% of the scrapes experienced by the crew are Avon induced. Due to his careless loss of the Liberator, Zen, near loss of Orac (except from a cool move by Vila!). and the death of Cally. He ultimately proved to be as big a liability as the much maligned Blake, when he finally got them all killed on GP. Of course its these scrapes that make for compelling viewing. Even though in my opinion anyway Season 4 descends into a tedious mire of cliche and predictability. Exception is the "Blake" episode with its tragic ending. Still despite Avon being such a flawed character he attracts such admiration from certain quarters. I guess that is the point. Flawed, dangerous and that "Je ne sais quoi" appeal", its just that Avon thing. |
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| saba |
Posted on 08-09-2009 23:06
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Too true. They managed to get themselves into even more scrapes in series 3 and 4 without Blake's assistance, than they did when he was at the helm. I think Avon just liked having someone to blame. |
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| Lurena |
Posted on 09-09-2009 00:22
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President Solvite wrote: At least 25% of the scrapes experienced by the crew are Avon induced. Due to his careless loss of the Liberator, Zen, near loss of Orac (except from a cool move by Vila!). and the death of Cally. He ultimately proved to be as big a liability as the much maligned Blake, when he finally got them all killed on GP. Of course its these scrapes that make for compelling viewing. Even though in my opinion anyway Season 4 descends into a tedious mire of cliche and predictability. Exception is the "Blake" episode with its tragic ending. Still despite Avon being such a flawed character he attracts such admiration from certain quarters. I guess that is the point. Flawed, dangerous and that "Je ne sais quoi" appeal", its just that Avon thing. True. S4, "looks like a "spin off" to me (I said on the old forum), some parts enjoyable though. In my opinion it is the Avon's intelligence and logic that failes helping him out, which makes him such a tragic man. That feels like the kind of (in his case oversized) mistake we all are able to make in our lives. That makes him real for me and his reality makes him attractive. .....I want to tell, but I can't..... ...I promised.... |
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| Tyce |
Posted on 09-09-2009 04:47
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Hi Everyone! Hi Lurena, I have the continuation of our Avon/Cally discussion on my computer at home. Do you want it up here? I notice this thread is just Avon as opposed to the Comparable to Avon thread from before.......Anyway as soon as I get home I'll organise to put it up somewhere..... I used to have a life.......then I found Horizon! |
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| Tyce |
Posted on 09-09-2009 04:51
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President Solvite wrote: At least 25% of the scrapes experienced by the crew are Avon induced. Due to his careless loss of the Liberator, Zen, near loss of Orac (except from a cool move by Vila!). and the death of Cally. He ultimately proved to be as big a liability as the much maligned Blake, when he finally got them all killed on GP. Still despite Avon being such a flawed character he attracts such admiration from certain quarters. I guess that is the point. Flawed, dangerous and that "Je ne sais quoi" appeal", its just that Avon thing. Hi Everyone! Hi President Solvite, Very well said. I like Avon but only as part of the whol but I think we sometime underestimate his flaws. As you say though "Je ne sais quoi" does have a real appeal to some people......I'm not one of them but each to his or her own...... Hi Lurena, I have the continuation of our Avon/Cally discussion on my computer at home. Do you want it up here? I notice this thread is just Avon as opposed to the Comparible to Avon thread from before.......Anyway as soon as I get home I'll organise to put it up somewhere..... Edited by Tyce on 09-09-2009 04:55 I used to have a life.......then I found Horizon! |
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| president solvite |
Posted on 09-09-2009 07:32
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Hi Tyce, glad you managed to find us on our new home. Any old threads, if it is agreed by the originator & participants put them up here on this site. Try and keep the naming of the thread the same or similar if possible to preserve continuity. Its a shame to let any good old discussions dissapear and if you have records or copies then thats great. 
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| Lurena |
Posted on 09-09-2009 08:32
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Welcome back Tyce! I will be happy with anything to do with Avon here! So, yes, please, post your copy here if the other participants don't mind. On the old forum this discussion set up was transferred to the Avon thread on request of some forum members who liked to have a compact overview of Avon's character. I don't know if that is still actual at this moment. And this thread seems to attrac more posters than on the old forum. Probably the discussion will get lost in the mix. If required, you can start a separate thread again. Let's wait for the reactions of the others? So here is the question: Should Tyce start a separate thread for Cally/Avon relationship thoughts again? Let us know, please. .....I want to tell, but I can't..... ...I promised.... |
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| Clonemaster |
Posted on 09-09-2009 20:07
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Lurena wrote: Clonemaster wrote: christine scheir wrote: Ignoring him would be pointless..with a smile like his... A smile that this latest from the dormouse..... http://www.youtub...As Hi Clonemaster! Happy to see you here! You made that vid I had planned to make! I love it ! (I love HIM) Thank you![/quote] Glad you liked it - I thought of you when I made it!! |
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| Ms Wooster |
Posted on 09-09-2009 20:17
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I'd say it is a fair comment that the crew needed Avon to get them out of trouble (and Blake induced trouble too!). But also considering Blake was there for two series and then not there for another two, during which quite a bit of trouble was Avon induced, Spike O's comment that he was relying on the crew to get him out is equally fair. The fact that Avon doesn't like showing he needed them doesn't make it less valid. I watched Orbit lately, for a first time since I saw it originally, and shuddered at the airlock scene. I must say it is the sigularly most distressing scene for me. In an odd way, a part of my heart goes to Avon in the series finale- at least there we could see an Avon who is killing Blake because he's grown to care a great deal about the latter and feels terribly betrayed; the quiet, calculating Avon who is trying to get Vila to come out is too cold to contemplate. 
"Everything in life that’s any fun, as somebody wisely observed, is either immoral, illegal or fattening." P.G. Wodehouse |
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