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Down & Safe Podcast
Travisina
Has anyone else listened to this?
Down & Safe - Eps A1 & A2

An entertaining in-depth discussion about 'The Way Back' and 'Spacefall' - nice mix of irreverence and genuine appreciation. A bit like our rewatches Wink

But - Language Warning - Bad Words are sometimes used, so not for younglings or those easily offended!
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guiser
Travisina wrote:

An entertaining in-depth discussion about 'The Way Back' and 'Spacefall' - nice mix of irreverence and genuine appreciation.


Great podcasts and you've described the tone of them perfectly. I'm quite impatient to hear the next one!

One of the podcasters seems to be, like me, a bit of a Blake sympathiser, so I'm particularly enjoying that!

Mind you, I've always thought the repeated sequences of Blake being struck in the The Way Back were "arty" rather than padding! Sort of dreamlike/nightmarish. Signifying Blake's state of mind or symbolic of the relentlessness, repetition and inescapability of Federation brutality. A 1984esque boot stamping on a human face forever vision of the Federation. I've always liked that sequence!
Edited by guiser on 31 May 2015 02:58:10
 
Anniew
Guiser - Arty padding perhaps?
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guiser
Anniew wrote:

Guiser - Arty padding perhaps?


Probably! Smile

I think I'll give the podcast a re-listen. 2 in the morning isn't the best time to be taking stuff in (bloomin' insomnia!).

There is some interesting discussion about what the behaviour of Federation employees/officials tells you about the Federation, I seem to remember.

I also remember that I liked the podcast discussion of Blake as "amateur "and posh revolutionary. I'd say semi-amateur myself (he knows about explosives and guns). I've always liked that aspect of the character and didn't like the idea of Blake as soldier in the proposed tv reboot or indeed the way-too-clever Blake of the audio reboot. I think Blake shows an appropriate level of competence for a character who was probably still in the process of transiting from less violent to more violent resistance. For various reasons, Blake really remind me of a young Nelson Mandela, actually!

Also, everybody loves Avon! Who'd have thunk it, eh? Grin
Edited by guiser on 31 May 2015 19:21:44
 
Travisina
Episode 2 is now available -
A3 - Cygnus Alpha

It's a great discussion - some of it laugh-out-loud funny, some of it serious and sensible - and some of it slightly dodgy (rude words and concepts). I'm really enjoying it, reminds me of Terra Nostra meetings...
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Joe Dredd
guiser wrote:

A 1984esque boot stamping on a human face forever vision of the Federation.


That's always been my take on that sequence too.
 
guiser
Joe Dredd wrote:

guiser wrote:

A 1984esque boot stamping on a human face forever vision of the Federation.


That's always been my take on that sequence too.


I know some people say that "The Way Back" is almost like a pilot for another show and is very different to the rest of B7, but I've always liked it.

I've now listened to episode 2 of the podcast and I enjoyed it every bit as much as episode 1. Episode 2 is even more irreverant, but still features a lot of interesting analysis. Indeed, in "Down and Unsafe" I think we may have a candidate for best Blake's 7 podcast, evah! Smile
 
President Solvite
Indeed the first episode remains one of my favourites, whenever I doubt Blake's rightness in his cause I cast my mind back to this initial episode.

Grim, very 1984, and if you take everything on board with this episode the only thing Blake can do is 'fight'

Will check out the podcasts shortly..
Edited by President Solvite on 07 June 2015 13:03:11
 
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guiser wrote:
I also remember that I liked the podcast discussion of Blake as "amateur "and posh revolutionary. I'd say semi-amateur myself (he knows about explosives and guns). I've always liked that aspect of the character and didn't like the idea of Blake as soldier in the proposed tv reboot or indeed the way-too-clever Blake of the audio reboot. I think Blake shows an appropriate level of competence for a character who was probably still in the process of transiting from less violent to more violent resistance. For various reasons, Blake really remind me of a young Nelson Mandela, actually!


I've always liked the theory that the Blake we see in the final episode is closer to the man Foster knew than the one we meet at the start of the series.

Ravella and Richie on the other hand come across as rather inept. More like the sort of student radicals you find selling copies of the Socialist Worker.
 
Gauda Cheese
Hopefully I'll like it more than Shake and Blake.
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Travisina
Episode 3 now up -
A4 - Pink Leather Fire Hydrants
In the third episode of Down and Safe, Michael, Liz, Scott, and Amal discuss Time Squad, covering Space Romans, Cally’s introduction, and the flora of Saurian Major.

Once again, a marvellous combination of laugh-out-loud observations and serious discussion. Is anyone else here listening to these? I'd love to chat about them! (NB Rude Words and Innuendo warnings still apply, but don't let that put you off, this stuff is great.)
Edited by Travisina on 18 June 2015 20:57:43
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Ellen York
I've listened to the first one (TWB and Spacefall). It was an interesting discussion. One thing they mentioned that I hadn't considered is the question of whether in US-made shows, the rebels are more likely to be portrayed as "right". This is certainly true in Star Wars (in Star Trek the current government are the "good guys" ) In B7, the issue is far more grey. Hope I'm not opening another trans-Atlantic can of worms Smile
 
Ellen York
Listened to episode 2. Poor Vila being compared to a cockroach Sad Cockroaches may be the ultimate survivors, but they are disgusting and Vila is adorable. It was an interesting point about why the Federation bothers sending people to Cygnus Alpha. Bureaucratic inertia makes as much sense as anything.
 
Travisina
Ellen York wrote:

Listened to episode 2. Poor Vila being compared to a cockroach Sad Cockroaches may be the ultimate survivors, but they are disgusting and Vila is adorable.

I agree, but it was still quite funny.

These podcasts are so much fun. The newbie, Amal, who can barely contain her excitement (in the Time Squad podcast, she's positively Tigger-like about having another female crew member on the Liberator) and the others, who are very seasoned fans making in-depth comments about the plot structure, the writing, direction, production, the BBC etc - rewatching the eps as we do, in the context of knowing what happens throughout the series.
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Ellen York
I'm enjoying how enthusiastic Amal is; always good to see a newbie take to the series. And they all mange to hit a fair balance between irreverent and affectionate.

Time Squad is a good episode for the female characters. Cally gets a strong introduction and Jenna holds her own against the "Space Romans".

I did chuckle about the "obviously these people aren't professionals" discussion, particularly Blake building the fire to attract the rebels.
 
Travisina
Latest episode - The Web - is up - Space Cabbages.

Again, a mix of newbie enthusiasm, older fan knowledge, a lot of laughs, some serious points about the nature of the Federation, a bit of number crunching where they compare what the model Liberator was (at the time of recording) being sold for on Ebay compared with the budget of the actual show and mild despair at some of the - shall we say - more unfortunate aspects of the episode.

However, their genuine appreciation of the show shines through - this is so much more enjoyable than 'The Wife and Blake', imo.
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Anniew
I love Down and Safe - really love it- but imo comparing it to Wife and Blake is apples and oranges. The contributors to D&S are new to Blake but fantasy experts and fans. W&B was a blog by a non fantasy fan watching the series. Both make me look at the show with fresh eyes and both are very funny and honest, and those involved in both have great relationships. I love both. Engage with both for different reasons.
Just because I can't sing doesn't mean I won't.
 
meegat39
Anniew wrote:

I love Down and Safe - really love it- but imo comparing it to Wife and Blake is apples and oranges. The contributors to D&S are new to Blake but fantasy experts and fans. W&B was a blog by a non fantasy fan watching the series. Both make me look at the show with fresh eyes and both are very funny and honest, and those involved in both have great relationships. I love both. Engage with both for different reasons.


I have to say that although initially offended by the Wife and Blake, I grew to love it especially as Sue's appreciation grew and she WAS very funny!!
"If you didn't want the answer, you shouldn't have asked the question."
 
guiser
I enjoyed the Wife and Blake blog as much for the fan comments as for Sue's reactions, funny though they could be! The way that the blog pulled in so many fans was really great.
 
Ellen York
I also enjoyed the comments on the Wife and Blake blog. There were some very interesting/lively discussions.

I'll listen to the new Down and Safe (or Down and Not Safe for Work) this weekend.
 
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